Dogs on trains?

[EllieAquitrain]

Couldn't possibly be more intimidating than the Yorkshire stag/hen do express from Leeds to Blackpoo on a Friday afternoon.

Which dog breeds is a Blackpoo a cross between?

 

[py_megapixel]

Which dog breeds is a Blackpoo a cross between?

My first thought was that it might be named after the appearance of its faeces

 

[fairysdad]

My first thought was that it might be named after the appearance of its faeces

In humans, that's a sign you should visit your doctor...

 

[randyrippley]

They weren't.

Accompanied dogs could be taken into the passenger saloon, subject to:

a) being clean
b) behaving
c) staying on the floor.

I have accompanied a dog from Redruth to Crewe (many years ago now). No problem.

must have had a strong bladder

 

[Gems]

If dogs and bikes were to be banned from trains, everything that passes through Doncaster must not stop.

On a more serious tone. Interesting question. I'm not a dog owner, but love to pet a pooch. But the level of control some owners have over their pets varies widely. Some dogs should not be allowed on trains for the simple reason the owner is useless. The dog controls them in some cases. I always treat them with a great deal of caution, and having to step over one is a big no no. As for 'Jack Russell's' Those things should be banned from the planet, vicious little sods.

 

[Spartacus]

In humans, that's a sign you should visit your doctor...

Or a good night on the Guinness!

 

[USRailFan]

Dogs should be given priority. Then again I tend to prefer dogs over people, so...

 

[Journeyman]

This completely reminded me of that great Muppets classic, Pigs in Space.

"DOGS ON TRAINSSSSSSSS!!!!!"

 

[Calthrop]

On a more serious tone. Interesting question. I'm not a dog owner, but love to pet a pooch. But the level of control some owners have over their pets varies widely. Some dogs should not be allowed on trains for the simple reason the owner is useless. The dog controls them in some cases. I always treat them with a great deal of caution, and having to step over one is a big no no. As for 'Jack Russell's' Those things should be banned from the planet, vicious little sods.

(My bolding) I tend to agree; nonetheless, in my experience -- Jack Russells are soppy and placid creatures, compared to Patterdale terriers.

 

[Foxcote]

In the days when we had guard's vans, the dog would be muzzled up and put in a travel cage there.

This applied only to unaccompanied dogs, of which, in BR days the maximum permitted under this arrangement was three. The dog(s) would have a destination label and usually the name of person collecting. The were charged at parcel rates and a red paid parcel stamp was issued to show that payment had been made.

Dogs were often sent unaccompanied for mating to anywhere in the UK or sometimes Eire, or even sent for dog shows, where the consignee would be the Show Secretary.

Otherwise, when accompanied, terra-cotta red tickets were issued with fare banding up to 300 miles +. As the same ticket was issued at the same rate for cycles and prams, the price covered up to three dogs, or any combination of these three items. There were cheap privilege tickets for staff and dependants, and guide dogs travelled free.

 

[StephenHunter]

I stand corrected.

 

[Purple Orange]

I like that dogs are allowed on trains. Just like humans, if the dog is not well behaved then owner and dog should be removed from the train. In fact you are more likely to come across a badly behaved human on a train than a dog.

In short, dogs should be welcomed. Especially dogs that wear glasses or shades.

 

[M7R]

Here’s ours currently half asleep on a GWR 800 from Plymouth,

 

[Altnabreac]

I once travelled from Canterbury to Edinburgh with two Guinea Pigs on the Seated Sleeper.

Not technically permitted but they were well behaved little creatures and mainly slept on the journey.

 

[al78]

In fact you are more likely to come across a badly behaved human on a train than a dog.

That is hardly surprising given there are vastly more humans than dogs on pretty much all passenger trains, combined with dogs being looked upon as if they were machines with no independent thought capability, so bad behaviour is automatically attributed to the owner, like bad driving is attributed to the driver, not the motor vehicle.

 

[Nightpassenger]

Considering the amount of times I’ve seen drunken and disruptive passengers (one which soiled himself at the side of me) I’d happily welcome the biggest, slobbering, stinking mutt as a fellow traveller.

 

[Grumpy Git]

Considering the amount of times I’ve seen drunken and disruptive passengers (one which soiled himself at the side of me) I’d happily welcome the biggest, slobbering, stinking mutt as a fellow traveller.

So long as he/she doesn't have a penchant for Marston's Pedigree?

 

[Nightpassenger]

So long as he/she doesn't have a penchant for Marston's Pedigree?

Mine are quite partial to a slurp of Peroni, but they drink in moderation and don’t frequent trains

 

[BJames]

Quite surprised by this thread. I didn't realise taking your dog with you on the train was such a controversial subject.

Move to a different carriage. It's the individuals responsibility to mitigate for their allergies not everyone else's.

Exactly. If something's bothering you, move. It's clearly a minority which is bothered so the minority should move.

Fine. But there has to be an understanding that no dogs are allowed on the seats, the owner has to try to silence them if they start to make noise, they are not allowed to run around the carriage (though that's fairly rare), and preferably they should not be allowed on at peak times (because then it's crowded enough that you can't just "move away").

I'd also support charging for them. I don't see why they should go for free if they are taking up space on the train. Maybe they could be charged at a third of the adult fare, something like that.

All of this is of course with the important exception of assistance animals.

I fully agree that dogs should not be (and aren't allowed anyway) on the seats. I travel with my dog sometimes and he's a little one but he never goes on the seat or even on my lap. And he's quite happy on the floor.

I don't agree that they should be charged for, I really don't agree that they take up enough space to inconvenience the rest of the passengers. Don't sit or stand near it if it's that much of a worry. FWIW every time I take my dog on the train we always get talking to other random passengers who want to stroke our dog and it makes the journey a bit more enjoyable for all of us.

Moderator note: if anyone wishes to discuss the charging of dogs on trains, please use the following thread: https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...engers-if-so-what-should-the-fares-be.208238/

 

[geoffk]

Only issue I've seen is when a group of walkers took two dogs on a crowded peak hour train into Manchester. I think they were walking the Pennine Way and needed to make an early start. Some commuters grumbled then but generally at off-peak times no problems except once when a young woman was asked by the guard to take her dog off the train seat, to which request she objected! A bit different on buses because of restricted space. In the north east I came across regulations about the carriage of greyhounds (only one per deck I think it was) and RRBs don't take them at all, nor do trams, except for assistance dogs.

 

[SussexLad]

You'd be surprised...

UK's first guide horse learns how to board a train before moving to London

Digby, a miniature horse is being paired with a new master after his previous owner decided he was too large

www.mirror.co.uk

I beleive that trial failed and their has not been a second "guide horse" since

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On a serious note, guide dogs and assistance dogs are allowed. So any genuinely well behaved dog should be allowed too.

Making the dog get another ticket is another kettle of fish

 

[Purple Orange]

Making the dog get another ticket is another kettle of fish

I know that the economy has tanked, but when did we start purchasing things with fish?


... I’ll get me coat.

 

[DorkingMain]

As a guard I loved getting dogs on my train, particularly friendly ones. On one occasion a passenger had the dog on the seat next to them, sat on a blanket (not a busy train, I wasn't worried). The dog was very friendly and I fussed over him a bit.

Unfortunately then as I moved down the train it decided it wanted to come with me, much to the dismay of its owners who then came sprinting after it lol

 

[Sweetjesus]

Granted that humans do cause trouble and misery on trains more often than dogs do but I think it's dishonest to compare both given that dogs appear on a train much less frequently.