DavidGrain
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If Adrian Shooter was running it, it would be on budget and on time but after getting to Bicester, I think it was taken off Chiltern.
The most recent MML scheme cost £3.75M per single track km. I don't know how much cheaper it would be to do it before the line opens.I remember reading that East-West rail won't be electrified? Is this true? If so, why? How much would it cost to electrify the line?
One key MMLE objective is ‘delivery on spend per single track kilometre (£/STK) target’. The recently commissioned London to Corby electrification was delivered at a rate of £3.7m per STK with the application of SPEED principles. The next stage of electrification is targeted to deliver £2.5m per STK. This programme focuses on challenging and driving down the STK rate. Details of all the MMLE objectives can be found in the Strategic Brief.
Not sure how Adrian would have got HS2 to hand it over any quicker to be honest.4If Adrian Shooter was running it, it would be on budget and on time but after getting to Bicester, I think it was taken off Chiltern.
In many ways, EWR will be perfect for battery operation - short distances, limited to100mph top speed, electrification (planned) at both ends, OHLE at Bletchley and Bedford to top up en route, new stock due to be ordered in a few years time...The projection at the beginning was that by the time the line is finished other types of clean traction might be available. Hydrogen and batteries were mentioned. I think it's clear at this point in time those technologies are not going to be fruitful by 1st operation of the line.
Network Rail don't seem to think so. The TDNS made it very clear that OHLE was the most sensible option. Maybe battery operation is possible, but OHLE is certainly better.In many ways, EWR will be perfect for battery operation - short distances, limited to100mph top speed, electrification (planned) at both ends, OHLE at Bletchley and Bedford to top up en route, new stock due to be ordered in a few years time...
I thought so, I think the HS2 bridge is out of shot to the left.So am I right in thinking there’s now a complete embankment? I wonder how long before the track gets joined up?
Thanks for that. The EWR formation now seems complete throughout, at last!New update from NWP Exploring. Not the best quality drone pics, but good enough to see the great progress of EWR through the HS2 site. Road bridge over old Calvert Station about to be demolished apparently. I think the two flooded sections show the HS2 line and the Aylesbury line next to it.
The road closure starts today, 8 Nov 23, and is end dated ‘summer 2025’, so rules out that viewpoint for some time. The new feature is shown on HS2 drawings as “School Hill Green Bridge” and will be over the much debated Aylesbury link, but otherwise it’s not strictly part of the EWR project.…Road bridge over old Calvert Station about to be demolished apparently. I think the two flooded sections show the HS2 line and the Aylesbury line next to it.
Yes.Am I right in thinking that a “Green Bridge” is somewhat wider than just the road and footway, and incorporates a route for wildlife to cross the railway?
No possession restrictions and unrestricted working would deliver a massive improvement in productivity so you can be sure it would be a lot less than 3.75m/kmThe most recent MML scheme cost £3.75M per single track km. I don't know how much cheaper it would be to do it before the line opens.
See https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/029555-2023
Are there any elements of this that might be usefully salvaged for the GCR preserved line, even if just the bricks? I guess it’s an authentic GCR structure?(…) Road bridge over old Calvert Station about to be demolished apparently.
New update from NWP Exploring. Not the best quality drone pics, but good enough to see the great progress of EWR through the HS2 site. Road bridge over old Calvert Station about to be demolished apparently. I think the two flooded sections show the HS2 line and the Aylesbury line next to it.
Just to check - does this mean that regardless of HS2 progress, the track and associated signalling can be installed all the way now from Bicester to Bletchley? Great news if so.Thanks for that. The EWR formation now seems complete throughout, at last!
When I click on that video it starts with the timer at 9:20, but it's possible to wind back to before that. The best views of EWR are from 3:35 to 4:55 and from 7:55 to 9:30.
Clay extraction pits for brick making according to old OS maps - I think he’s mistaken in using the term reservoir.Thank you for this. Off topic qn - is the 'reservoir' natural, or man-made? I assume the latter. Was it clay for bricks of what?
Just to check - does this mean that regardless of HS2 progress, the track and associated signalling can be installed all the way now from Bicester to Bletchley? Great news if so.
Indeed - the Calvert brickworks, closed finally in the 1990s. It is now the Calvert Jubilee nature reserve.Clay extraction pits for brick making according to old OS maps - I think he’s mistaken in using the term reservoir.
In the 4th picture, the tracks are quite wobbly, how do they fix that?Quite a bit of development happening. Here are some pictures taken by Ron, Ron, Ron of the RM Web forum (https://www.rmweb.co.uk/topic/65959-east-west-rail-bletchley-to-oxford-line/page/139/) - E-W Track laying on the approaches to the bridge over HS2 and the future HS2 infrastructure depot.
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Thanks Ron, Look forward to the next update.
Pictures taken within the last few days
They lay the rail only roughly in position, some time before the “new track construction machine” comes along with the sleepers, and sorts out the proper alignment.In the 4th picture, the tracks are quite wobbly, how do they fix that?
Oooh, I see. ThanksThey lay the rail only roughly in position, some time before the “new track construction machine“ comes along with the sleepers, and sorts out the proper alignment.
So at the stage shown here the rail strings will have been delivered by a long welded rail delivery train to somewhere near the end of the finished track, and then pulled along the ballast by another machine, probably a small caterpillar tracked vehicle.
Construction might be finished, signalling and hand over to being an operational railway won't be. You won't see passenger trains in revenue earning service before 2025.Great pics above. Will we see freight trains on EWR before passenger? Looks like EWR construction Bicester to Bletchley will be completed by end of June 24?
Probably the last relevant HS2 meets EWR video from Mickey 2 Cams Have a drive under the EWR over bridge.
All the operational power supplies for Signalling/GSMR and Points heating are now installed and live.Construction might be finished, signalling and hand over to being an operational railway won't be. You won't see passenger trains in revenue earning service before 2025.
Good view of Bletchley , the junction view is partly blurred , but bridge now done, I noted all power supplies and compound finished. It looks really great from air, and not long till 2 halves joined. 11 Nov 2023.All the operational power supplies for Signalling/GSMR and Points heating are now installed and live.
Thanks for the replies. I fully appreciate the time it will take to train staff and launch, probably at scheduled timetable change, a passenger service on the new route. However if the line is fully commissioned and ready to go during 2024 would the line be used for freight before passenger? Would EWR serve as a diversionary route, or a new route, and if so what traffic would be likely to use it?