EMR class 156s for Northern

[3973EXL]

Rumoured to be 156402

Realtime Trains | 552A 0956 Etches Park Sdgs to Newton Heath T.M.D. | 30/11/2021

Real-time train running information for 552A 0956 departure from Etches Park Sdgs to Newton Heath T.M.D. on 30/11/2021. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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156401 & 156402 off to Northern on Tuesday 30/11/21 5N31 0956 Etches Park - Newton Heath

 

[superkev]

Re 156401, 402 Derby to NH. I wonder how this fit in with Northerns livery, interior and digital train systems and can they be pressed into service quickly.
Thanks. K

 

[LowLevel]

Re 156401, 402 Derby to NH. I wonder how this fit in with Northerns livery, interior and digital train systems and can they be pressed into service quickly.
Thanks. K

Nothing to stop them from working immediately if desired, once they've had their handover and been fitted into an exam cycle - they're similar in spec to the ex FNW Newton Heath units.

They might go for refurbishment first but time will tell.

 

[childwallblues]

Lets hope that they stay at Newton Heath and not sent to Heaton.

 

[simon7929]

Yes. Hope they stay there. We will keep our refurbished ScotRail units with intermediate door controls along with all the ex ATN Angel leased units.

 

[LowLevel]

Yes. Hope they stay there. We will keep our refurbished ScotRail units with intermediate door controls along with all the ex ATN Angel leased units.

The ex EMT units have intermediate door controls fitted. The ex Anglia ones don't.

 

[childwallblues]

156402 is an ex Anglia unit which was re-numbered to 156902 when it arrived at EMT. Noting that this has now regained its original number has it had mods whilst at EMT?

 

[Andy Pacer]

Nothing to stop them from working immediately if desired, once they've had their handover and been fitted into an exam cycle - they're similar in spec to the ex FNW Newton Heath units.

They might go for refurbishment first but time will tell.

156402 is an ex Anglia unit which was re-numbered to 156902 when it arrived at EMT. Noting that this has now regained its original number has it had mods whilst at EMT?

Of course, 156402 is at least already in Northern livery.

 

[LowLevel]

156402 is an ex Anglia unit which was re-numbered to 156902 when it arrived at EMT. Noting that this has now regained its original number has it had mods whilst at EMT?

Bodywork, repaint and removal of class 170 style passenger information system and fitting of TrainFX. Still has it's interior from the refresh it received after transfer from Central Trains to One.

 

[diligentdave]

Re 156401, 402 Derby to NH. I wonder how this fit in with Northerns livery, interior and digital train systems and can they be pressed into service quickly.
Thanks. K

Supposed to be 402 & 415

 

[LowLevel]

Supposed to be 402 & 415

415 finishes at Eastcroft tonight, 401 and 402 are both not in traffic.

 

[liamf656]

It’s definitely 401 and 402, with 415 and 412 to follow at a later date. 401 is down for immediate use once it’s sent to Northern.

It was said to me earlier that 401/415 may even return to the Midlands when more ex-GA units transfer, as those are the ones EMR want rid of first, then once more Turbostars are in use the native 156s will leave permanently. I’m not sure on the truth of that so I will update once more solid info comes in on that

(Edited to include the correct units as information has since been updated since I received it)

 

[3973EXL]

156402/401 reported on 5N31 Realtime Trains - 552A 0956 Etches Park Sdgs to Newton Heath T.M.D. through Doncaster

 

[John C]

I managed to capture 156401/402 at a rather wet Marsden station.

156402

156401

 

[diligentdave]

That means that 156415 will transfer next week. The other unit that will be moving to Northern is 156412 when it comes out of Wolverton.

 

[LOL The Irony]

Any reason for 401 not going via Wolverton first?

 

[Neptune]

Any reason for 401 not going via Wolverton first?

Maybe because it doesn’t need the PIS modifications?

 

[Pippy1505]

415 moves Monday 6th Dec Derby-Newton Heath 412 moves Saturday 18th Dec Wolverton to Newton Heath

 

[LowLevel]

Any reason for 401 not going via Wolverton first?

It has had a paint job that is well within warranty so painting it won't be a priority until that's due. It already has TrainFX fitted and once it fits into the exam cycle and has any Northern mods it'll no doubt be in service.

The ex Anglia ones will be due bodywork and repaint at Wolverton along with their TrainFX conversion.

 

[fgwrich]

It has had a paint job that is well within warranty so painting it won't be a priority until that's due. It already has TrainFX fitted and once it fits into the exam cycle and has any Northern mods it'll no doubt be in service.

The ex Anglia ones will be due bodywork and repaint at Wolverton along with their TrainFX conversion.

It does also now mean that we have the somewhat unusual situation of a Northern liveried unit working for EMR, and a EMR Liveried unit working for Northern!

 

[LowLevel]

It does also now mean that we have the somewhat unusual situation of a Northern liveried unit working for EMR, and a EMR Liveried unit working for Northern!

The Northern liveried unit has transferred with the EMT liveried one The next one out of Wolverton is going direct to Newton Heath, apparently.

 

[superkev]

Anyone advise which units have been repainted in Northern livery ready for transfer north. Presumably they retain there EMR or Anglia interiors and seats.
Thanks.
K

 

[3973EXL]

Anyone advise which units have been repainted in Northern livery ready for transfer north. Presumably they retain there EMR or Anglia interiors and seats.
Thanks.
K

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Updated list:


Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo - (will move to Northern on 30/11)
156402 - Northern base with EMR branding - (will move to Northern on 30/11)
156403 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMR outgoing livery
156406 - EMR outgoing livery
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156412 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156912 - at Wolverton for prep for Northern)
156413 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) with EMR Regional logo
156414 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) no branding
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156422 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156922 - at Wolverton for prep for Northern)
156470 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156473 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156907 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156407)
156909 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409), Stored at Barrow Hill?
156916 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156416)
156917 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156417), Stored at Barrow Hill?
156918 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156418)
156919 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156419)

 

[adrock1976]

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Are the whole lot of the East Mids 156s going to Northern, or is it just the ones that were temporarily renumbered from 1564xx to 1569xx?

The sole remaining East Mids 156 I require for haulage is 410.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Are the whole lot of the East Mids 156s going to Northern, or is it just the ones that were temporarily renumbered from 1564xx to 1569xx?

The sole remaining East Mids 156 I require for haulage is 410.

Several but not all original EMT ones, all original 156/9s and none of the four that transferred from Northern Rail. There was a list published a while back but it was quite a long time ago now so it’s unsurprising that you haven’t seen it. I’ll try and find it and quote it for you.

 

[3973EXL]

Several but not all original EMT ones, all original 156/9s and none of the four that transferred from Northern Rail. There was a list published a while back but it was quite a long time ago now so it’s unsurprising that you haven’t seen it. I’ll try and find it and quote it for you.

Page 1 of this thread.

 

[adrock1976]

Several but not all original EMT ones, all original 156/9s and none of the four that transferred from Northern Rail. There was a list published a while back but it was quite a long time ago now so it’s unsurprising that you haven’t seen it. I’ll try and find it and quote it for you.

Page 1 of this thread.

I've had a quick look at the first page of this thread, and if I have interpreted it right and nothing else has changed, would I be right in that 410 will be remaining in the East Mids?

 

[superkev]

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Thankyou.
I see 156 909 and 917 are shown as stored at Barrow hill for some reason
K

 

[43096]

I've had a quick look at the first page of this thread, and if I have interpreted it right and nothing else has changed, would I be right in that 410 will be remaining in the East Mids?

Only until the Turbostars finally arrive - ultimately it is off lease with an uncertain future.

 

[43055]

Thankyou.
I see 156 909 and 917 are shown as stored at Barrow hill for some reason
K

I'm not 100% sure if they are still up there hence the question marks. At one point 5 or 6 156/9s was stored due to reduced timetables.