EMR Class 170 updates

[High Dyke]

Will be a 170 until further notice - so Norwich traincrew can maintain their competence on 170s

I can't say for certain - I don't have access to train diagrams etc; however, it has been a Cl.170 on that service Monday - Friday recently. Every possibility it may be like that for a while, but short notice changes can take place.

 

[liamf656]

I can't say for certain - I don't have access to train diagrams etc; however, it has been a Cl.170 on that service Monday - Friday recently. Every possibility it may be like that for a while, but short notice changes can take place.

I think Pippy’s comment was more of a statement than a question

It is indeed standard practice for the foreseeable

170417 is being sent down to Tyseley for repairs, although I’m uncertain as to what the repairs are

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[Liam L]

Saw 170273 at Tyseley yesterday as I was heading towards SOL... Any ideas as to why it's there?
I think another one went down yesterday aswell.

 

[liamf656]

Saw 170273 at Tyseley yesterday as I was heading towards SOL... Any ideas as to why it's there?
I think another one went down yesterday aswell.

The other one is 170418. I believe 417 has returned to Nottingham

 

[Pippy1505]

Engine changes

 

[I like Class 153]

Any news on when more 170s will go to EMR?

 

[liamf656]

Any news on when more 170s will go to EMR?

I'm sure info will appear here as and when more arrive. We're waiting for 196s to enter service in order for WMR to release more 170s

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I'm sure info will appear here as and when more arrive. We're waiting for 196s to enter service in order for WMR to release more 170s

We’re also waiting on more Mark 4 sets to enter service with TfW to release 170201-206, 270-271 and 273.

 

[animationmilo]

We’re also waiting on more Mark 4 sets to enter service with TfW to release 170201-206, 270-271 and 273.

TFW also have 170207, 170208, 170272

170273 has left to EMR already so theres 11 left with TFW. 8 x 3 car and 3 x 2 car

 

[anthony263]

170203 d
Gone to Barton Hill today

 

[43102EMR]

170203 d
Gone to Barton Hill today

Was it taken by road? Can’t find any paths

 

[PHILIPE]

170203 d
Gone to Barton Hill today

170203 is not an EMR one. It is TFW

 

[LowLevel]

170203 is not an EMR one. It is TFW

It'll be coming over sooner or later, we already get notices quoting all of the 170/2s.

 

[PHILIPE]

It'll be coming over sooner or later, we already get notices quoting all of the 170/2s.

They will but I think they will be a "long sooner" until replacements are in place.

 

[43102EMR]

They will but I think they will be a "long sooner" until replacements are in place.

273 only moved over as it was made spare at Canton - 11 required for daily use including spare units, meaning 273 was available to be released I believe.

 

[Sunday8pm]

Is there any update on when Class 170 services will run on Nottingham to Grantham/Skegness?

 

[hooverboy]

Is there any update on when Class 170 services will run on Nottingham to Grantham/Skegness?

Presumably there are likely to be a lot of re-shuffles stock-wise due to southern 171's being retained+ WMR stock delays, so I wouldn't hold out a great deal of hope any time soon.

I guess now would actually be quite a good time for EMR to start putting out feelers to Alstom for the 3 car hydrogen aventra's purportedly for Scotrail.They are the right sort of stock and specification to be running this line,and it was one of the commitments EMR made during the franchise process to trial some hydrogen trains.

 

[LowLevel]

Is there any update on when Class 170 services will run on Nottingham to Grantham/Skegness?

They have been doing for the last 6 months or so, at least. 07, 12, 17xx Nottingham - Skegness on weekdays, and more on weekends.

 

[Impey0711]

I went on 170532 yesterday looks great in the new livery but the green interior let's it down although in fairly good condition still.......

 

[greyman42]

How about the Doncaster - Peterborough 170s?

 

[43055]

How about the Doncaster - Peterborough 170s?

They have been on the Lincoln - Peterborough leg but not sure if it is still the case.

 

[43102EMR]

They have been on the Lincoln - Peterborough leg but not sure if it is still the case.

They have indeed worked the Doncaster leg a number of times from what I’ve seen - test runs were also conducted in April

 

[class26]

Is there any update on when Class 170 services will run on Nottingham to Grantham/Skegness?

I travelled between Heckington and Boston recently was treated to a 3 car 170 !

 

[Ilovetrains43]

170 510 has been repainted but not transferred

 

[railphotoghw]

170 510 has been repainted but not transferred

So have 502, 504, 506, 507, 508, 509, 512, 516, 517 and 533. They’re being painted in preparation to move to EMR. 513 is currently in for paint

 

[newtownmgr]

So have 502, 504, 506, 507, 508, 509, 512, 516, 517 and 533. They’re being painted in preparation to move to EMR. 513 is currently in for paint

No more will be transferred until the 196’s are in service.

 

[QSK19]

I presume that the leases for the WMR 170s have now transferred to EMR and they’re being subleased to WMR? If so, can’t EMR put their foot down and say “enough is enough, we want our 170s: delayed introduction of the 196s is nothing to do with us”? Or do sub-leases have some sort of clause to say that the lessee can’t leave the sub-lessee bereft of rolling stock? Or, given that the DfT has taken on financial liabilities, is the lease/sub-lease issue now irrelevant?

 

[newtownmgr]

I presume that the leases for the WMR 170s have now transferred to EMR and they’re being subleased to WMR? If so, can’t EMR put their foot down and say “enough is enough, we want our 170s: delayed introduction of the 196s is nothing to do with us”? Or do sub-leases have some sort of clause to say that the lessee can’t leave the sub-lessee bereft of rolling stock? Or, given that the DfT has taken on financial liabilities, is the lease/sub-lease issue now irrelevant?

And what do WMR use if EMR decided to do that!

 

[Liam L]

I presume that the leases for the WMR 170s have now transferred to EMR and they’re being subleased to WMR? If so, can’t EMR put their foot down and say “enough is enough, we want our 170s: delayed introduction of the 196s is nothing to do with us”? Or do sub-leases have some sort of clause to say that the lessee can’t leave the sub-lessee bereft of rolling stock? Or, given that the DfT has taken on financial liabilities, is the lease/sub-lease issue now irrelevant?

EMR have sub-leased them back to WMR, the 170s will be released for the Shrewsbury services first when the 196s are introduced next year.

If EMR did force the 170s away WMR (very highly unlikely) how would Shrewsbury service be covered if EMR took the remainer? Wolves and Shrewsbury crews (think that’s who run the Shrewsbury route) don’t sign 172s like the Worcester crews do.

 

[Spirit555]

EMR have sub-leased them back to WMR, the 170s will be released for the Shrewsbury services first when the 196s are introduced next year.

If EMR did force the 170s away WMR (very highly unlikely) how would Shrewsbury service be covered if EMR took the remainer? Wolves and Shrewsbury crews (think that’s who run the Shrewsbury route) don’t sign 172s like the Worcester crews do.

Can I add that, Birmingham New Street crews also cover the Shrewsbury services. No New Street men sign 172's at all and also don't sign numerous routes other crews do in the area.

Mark