First South West (Kernow & Buses of Somerset)

[TheGrandWazoo]

So, the L2 makes an appearance.

That was mentioned on the release of this https://www.truro-penwith.ac.uk/dow...ses_for_Truro_College_from_September_2021.pdf a few months back. It's a single return journey arriving at 0900 and departing at 1630

The L1 has three inbound journeys and two back. L3 is more frequent being two hourly

 

[Andyh82]

Also is this also telling us that the U1 will now run Newquay to Falmouth via Truro, as it would otherwise be odd to use this number just for college journeys?

 

[83G/84D]

A friend of mine spent some time in Newquay today watching the Boardmasters buses coming and going. He said DVSA were at the bus station checking drivers licenses and carrying out vehicle checks. Is this done regularly or just randomly at events etc?

Tinner E400MMC 33467 was at Par moor testing station today.

 

[Goldfish62]

That was mentioned on the release of this https://www.truro-penwith.ac.uk/dow...ses_for_Truro_College_from_September_2021.pdf a few months back. It's a single return journey arriving at 0900 and departing at 1630

The L1 has three inbound journeys and two back. L3 is more frequent being two hourly

Thanks. L5 every two hours as well?

 

[richw]

A friend of mine spent some time in Newquay today watching the Boardmasters buses coming and going. He said DVSA were at the bus station checking drivers licenses and carrying out vehicle checks. Is this done regularly or just randomly at events etc?

DVSA do this daily, but rarely venture to Cornwall. Can often be seen on the motorway escorting vehicles into their check point.
They like attending big events.

 

[83G/84D]

DVSA do this daily, but rarely venture to Cornwall. Can often be seen on the motorway escorting vehicles into their check point.
They like attending big events.

Thanks, I have never seen them checking buses and drivers anywhere.

 

[dgl]

DVSA do this daily, but rarely venture to Cornwall. Can often be seen on the motorway escorting vehicles into their check point.
They like attending big events.

I suppose a big event is a magnet for less professional operators who prey on people looking to save a few bucks, makes sense for the DVSA to go where they are most likely to catch anything dodgy.

 

[83G/84D]

I wonder what has is going on with Lizard open top 33036? It and the other one have only been out briefly which is a shame as I was hoping to ride on the L1 tomorrow, with the specific aim of photographing a Lizard Open top bus. Looks like I may have to wait a while.

 

[richw]

Thanks, I have never seen them checking buses and drivers anywhere.

The local officer tends to know which operators to check at random. Target Travel used to live up to their name. Carmel coaches too. Scaffolding lorries are also targeted regularly.

 

[GBM]

The local officer tends to know which operators to check at random. Target Travel used to live up to their name. Carmel coaches too. Scaffolding lorries are also targeted regularly.

Western Greyhound vehicles down West were frequently visited towards the end of their life by DVSA (or VOSA as they were).

 

[Goldfish62]

I suppose a big event is a magnet for less professional operators who prey on people looking to save a few bucks, makes sense for the DVSA to go where they are most likely to catch anything dodgy.

Glastonbury has always been a favourite for checks.

 

[RELL6L]

First have published details of Truro College routes with some funky new numbers

Buses to Truro College from September 2021 | Cornwall | First Bus

We’ve made some changes to the routes and times of buses to and from Truro College. Please check the new routes and timetables carefully. On our busier routes, we’ll be running duplicate buses where required, and many have buses running throughout the day. Click here to view a map of buses to...

www.firstbus.co.uk

100 Penzance | Hayle | Connor Downs
200 Penzance | Trevarrack | Castle Gate | Nancledra | Halsetown | Penbeagle | St Ives | Hayle | Connor Downs
220 St Dennis | Whitemoor | Nanpean | St Stephen | Grampound Road | Probus | Tresillian
270 Victoria | Roche | Carclaze | St Austell
271 Callington | Liskeard | Lothwithiel | St Blazey | St Austell
272 Looe | Pelynt | Lostwithiel | St Blazey | St Austell
273 Fowey | Par | St Blazey | St Austell
274 Mevagissey | St Austell
300 Long Rock | Marazion | Goldsithney | Leedstown | Hayle | Connor Downs
400 Porthtowan | Mount Hawke | Wheal Rose | Scorrier | Blackwater
470 Portreath | Illogan | Redruth | Lanner | Carharrack | St Day | Chacewater
500 St Mawes | St Just in Roseland | Portscatho | Tregony | Probus | Tresillian
660 Brill | Constantine | Mawnan Smith | Mabe Burnthouse | Flushing | Mylor Bridge | Feock
850 Crantock | Holywell Bay | St Newlyn East | Goonhavern | Peranzabuloe | Allet | Shortlanesend
890 Launceston | Five Lanes | Bolventor | Bodmin | Indian Queens | Summercourt | Ladock | Tresillian
900 Padstow | St Merryn | St Columb Major
950 Boscastle | Tintagel | Delabole | Camelford | Wadebridge | St Columb Major
L1 The Lizard | Mullion | Helston | Rame | Ponsanooth | Perranwell | Carnon Downs
L2 Coverack | St Keverne | Helston | Wendron | Stithians | Perranwell | Carnon Downs
T1 Penzance | Hayle | Connor Downs | Camborne | Pool | Redruth | Chacewater
T2 St Ives | Carbis Bay | Hayle Connor Downs | Camborne | Pool | Redruth | Chacewater
U1 / U1A / U1X Falmouth | Penryn | Devoran | Carnon Downs | Playing Place
U1 / U1A Newquay | Goonhavern | Perranporth | St Agnes (U1A)

And a service map

https://www.firstbus.co.uk/uploads/maps/Truro%20College%20buses.pdf

This is intriguing and some interesting choices of numbers.
Some, eg 220, 270, 470, 500, 660, 850, 890, 950 bear direct correlation to existing routes, the 27 is FK, the others TfC, and largley follow them, at least in part, although some (eg 890) extend some way beyond.
Then the 271-274 are derivates of the 270. The 272 to Looe has a nice symmetry with the 72 and 172 already going there!
100 and 200 bear a clear resemblance to T1 and T2
300, 400 and 900 look pretty unconnected
Then the U1 group, this must surely mean that these routes are going to run through to Newquay via the existing 86 and 87.
Years ago the Falmouth routes did run on to Newquay but I think this was via the eastern routes (91 etc) rather than via Perranporth.
So will the L1 just be certain journeys to the college on an otherwise commercial route to the Lizard?
The 660 looks interesting and seems to go to a lot of places.
I assume these will all be public buses?

 

[Jamesbus80]

This is intriguing and some interesting choices of numbers.
Some, eg 220, 270, 470, 500, 660, 850, 890, 950 bear direct correlation to existing routes, the 27 is FK, the others TfC, and largley follow them, at least in part, although some (eg 890) extend some way beyond.
Then the 271-274 are derivates of the 270. The 272 to Looe has a nice symmetry with the 72 and 172 already going there!
100 and 200 bear a clear resemblance to T1 and T2
300, 400 and 900 look pretty unconnected
Then the U1 group, this must surely mean that these routes are going to run through to Newquay via the existing 86 and 87.
Years ago the Falmouth routes did run on to Newquay but I think this was via the eastern routes (91 etc) rather than via Perranporth.
So will the L1 just be certain journeys to the college on an otherwise commercial route to the Lizard?
The 660 looks interesting and seems to go to a lot of places.
I assume these will all be public buses?

It is very interesting re: the wider potential if the 86 and 87 change to the U1/U1A with a through service via Truro. I had thought there are rather more blue E400s than potentially required by the 6 buses uses presently for the U1 and U2 (I appreciate this increases with the U3 in term times) - even with the three ‘08 Enviros and 32757 eventually becoming Lizards, that still leaves 12 I think in blue?

 

[Goldfish62]

It is very interesting re: the wider potential if the 86 and 87 change to the U1/U1A with a through service via Truro. I had thought there are rather more blue E400s than potentially required by the 6 buses uses presently for the U1 and U2 (I appreciate this increases with the U3 in term times) - even with the three ‘08 Enviros and 32757 eventually becoming Lizards, that still leaves 12 I think in blue?

Yes, 12. I had assumed that some would go into Lizard livery for the U4, but that's not happening so as you say, I wonder where they'll go.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

This is intriguing and some interesting choices of numbers.
Some, eg 220, 270, 470, 500, 660, 850, 890, 950 bear direct correlation to existing routes, the 27 is FK, the others TfC, and largley follow them, at least in part, although some (eg 890) extend some way beyond.
Then the 271-274 are derivates of the 270. The 272 to Looe has a nice symmetry with the 72 and 172 already going there!
100 and 200 bear a clear resemblance to T1 and T2
300, 400 and 900 look pretty unconnected
Then the U1 group, this must surely mean that these routes are going to run through to Newquay via the existing 86 and 87.
Years ago the Falmouth routes did run on to Newquay but I think this was via the eastern routes (91 etc) rather than via Perranporth.
So will the L1 just be certain journeys to the college on an otherwise commercial route to the Lizard?
The 660 looks interesting and seems to go to a lot of places.
I assume these will all be public buses?

It will certainly be interesting to see the timetables for all of these. A number are likely to be once a day runs (as present) but the U1 and L1 look more extensive; how they all measure up to the details released just a few months ago will be intriguing.

The Newquay to Falmouth routes were the 89/90 (prev X89/X90?) and I think they did follow the direct route as you say. Seem to recall that they received some of the East Lancs Tridents in 2005 before they were spirited away elsewhere.

 

[Andyh82]

These numbers are different than what was proposed in around June time. They had lots of variants like T1A, T1X, T1M etc for runs Penzance way, and 27M, 27F, 27C etc for routes in the St Austell direction

How the L1/L2 to Truro fits in with the L3 to Truro and indeed if they all will be running will be interesting as the routes all differ

It'd be good if the 900 (Truro College - Padstow) actually ran every few hours, as that would provide the link that the Royal Blue X19 was going to do in 2020, but which never happened

 

[Trainfan061193]

Even with the three ‘08 Enviros and 32757 eventually becoming Lizards, that still leaves 12 I think in blue?

I think that plan may have changed slightly now as I was told by Marc Huws on Twitter last night that at this stage it’ll be 5 Geminis and the two non Lizard Lolynes that will be painted so that will still include 32757 & 32761. 37002 & 37008 have already been painted but 37002 I think is yet to receive branding. 37008 looks very smart with it’s branding I must mention.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

These numbers are different than what was proposed in around June time. They had lots of variants like T1A, T1X, T1M etc for runs Penzance way, and 27M, 27F, 27C etc for routes in the St Austell direction

How the L1/L2 to Truro fits in with the L3 to Truro and indeed if they all will be running will be interesting as the routes all differ

It'd be good if the 900 (Truro College - Padstow) actually ran every few hours, as that would provide the link that the Royal Blue X19 was going to do in 2020, but which never happened

That was what I was alluding to - the info that was released before (and is still in the public domain) has been replaced by this before introduction and there looks to be a few extensive changes.

The variants though look similar in practice. Instead of the 27C/27F/27L/27M, you have the 271/272/273/274. The T1M, T1S and T2C are the 300,100,200 I think. Howeer, how the Lizard and U lines will work does look a bit different but let's see when the times etc come out

 

[83G/84D]

A Daytripper branded Solo made a rare appearance on service T1 earlier today.

 

[vla50]

It keeps on changing. On BusTimes it's 36100 LX60DXB or DXH.

Sorry, just seems to be confusing.

 

[matt_splat]

A few questions

Has Padstow outstation closed?
Are Kernow doing any of the Boardmasters shuttles?

 

[On the Buses]

A few questions

Has padstow outstation closed?
Are Kernow doing any of the boardmasters shuttles

No x 2

 

[Busgeek]

First have published details of Truro College routes with some funky new numbers

Buses to Truro College from September 2021 | Cornwall | First Bus

We’ve made some changes to the routes and times of buses to and from Truro College. Please check the new routes and timetables carefully. On our busier routes, we’ll be running duplicate buses where required, and many have buses running throughout the day. Click here to view a map of buses to...

www.firstbus.co.uk

100 Penzance | Hayle | Connor Downs
200 Penzance | Trevarrack | Castle Gate | Nancledra | Halsetown | Penbeagle | St Ives | Hayle | Connor Downs
220 St Dennis | Whitemoor | Nanpean | St Stephen | Grampound Road | Probus | Tresillian
270 Victoria | Roche | Carclaze | St Austell
271 Callington | Liskeard | Lothwithiel | St Blazey | St Austell
272 Looe | Pelynt | Lostwithiel | St Blazey | St Austell
273 Fowey | Par | St Blazey | St Austell
274 Mevagissey | St Austell
300 Long Rock | Marazion | Goldsithney | Leedstown | Hayle | Connor Downs
400 Porthtowan | Mount Hawke | Wheal Rose | Scorrier | Blackwater
470 Portreath | Illogan | Redruth | Lanner | Carharrack | St Day | Chacewater
500 St Mawes | St Just in Roseland | Portscatho | Tregony | Probus | Tresillian
660 Brill | Constantine | Mawnan Smith | Mabe Burnthouse | Flushing | Mylor Bridge | Feock
850 Crantock | Holywell Bay | St Newlyn East | Goonhavern | Peranzabuloe | Allet | Shortlanesend
890 Launceston | Five Lanes | Bolventor | Bodmin | Indian Queens | Summercourt | Ladock | Tresillian
900 Padstow | St Merryn | St Columb Major
950 Boscastle | Tintagel | Delabole | Camelford | Wadebridge | St Columb Major
L1 The Lizard | Mullion | Helston | Rame | Ponsanooth | Perranwell | Carnon Downs
L2 Coverack | St Keverne | Helston | Wendron | Stithians | Perranwell | Carnon Downs
T1 Penzance | Hayle | Connor Downs | Camborne | Pool | Redruth | Chacewater
T2 St Ives | Carbis Bay | Hayle Connor Downs | Camborne | Pool | Redruth | Chacewater
U1 / U1A / U1X Falmouth | Penryn | Devoran | Carnon Downs | Playing Place
U1 / U1A Newquay | Goonhavern | Perranporth | St Agnes (U1A)

And a service map

https://www.firstbus.co.uk/uploads/maps/Truro%20College%20buses.pdf

I wonder where the 660 will run from. Falmouth or Helston depot.

 

[On the Buses]

I wonder where the 660 will run from. Falmouth or Helston depot.

Or neither

 

[Accelerator59]

A Daytripper branded Solo made a rare appearance on service T1 earlier today.

33477 on a T1 service today.

 

[Trainfan061193]

33477 on a T1 service today.

33454 & 33456 are on there too. Those 3 are the ones out of 10 that returned from SPS on Thursday. I imagine more will gradually return over the coming weeks before the new college term starts.

 

[Busgeek]

So since the college timetable came out, I thought let's see how much the Truro College ticket is on the M-Ticket app. How I wish I didn't. (image attached shows Truro College Unlimited ticket, priced at £2750)

 

[SeveerYeliab]

So since the college timetable came out, I thought let's see how much the Truro College ticket is on the M-Ticket app. How I wish I didn't.

Bloody hell! It's £420 in my area and that's for all operators.

 

[On the Buses]

So since the college timetable came out, I thought let's see how much the Truro College ticket is on the M-Ticket app. How I wish I didn't.

Are you a Truro or Penwith College student?

 

[Lizard1324]

So since the college timetable came out, I thought let's see how much the Truro College ticket is on the M-Ticket app. How I wish I didn't.

It used to be £500 pounds a year, if you didn't have a bursary.