First South West (Kernow & Buses of Somerset)

[charlie1284]

If Lizard1324 is referring to the Falmouth P&R isn't that going to be operated by singles due to a low bridge?

Going to be operated by 65724 & 65725 when they return from Somerset if I am not mistaken.

 

[83G/84D]

Yes

Going to be operated by 65724 & 65725 when they return from Somerset if I am not mistaken.

Thanks to both of you.

 

[Lizard1324]

What park and ride?

Sorry, I was referring to the route which needs short wheel base buses for the turning circle.

I thought it was for the park and float / fal river but must be wrong.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

If Lizard1324 is referring to the Falmouth P&R isn't that going to be operated by singles due to a low bridge?

I think he’s getting confused with the particular route that those short Geminis have been sent down for. I can’t recall it but was it some FalRiver type service??

EDIT: I see he’s replied

 

[83G/84D]

I think he’s getting confused with the particular route that those short Geminis have been sent down for. I can’t recall it but was it some FalRiver type service??

EDIT: I see he’s replied

I cannot remember either, it's my age! You may well be right.

 

[On the Buses]

I cannot remember either, it's my age! You may well be right.

The Malpas shuttle. Not running but the two short Geminis are staying anyway for contract work with Truronian.

 

[Lizard1324]

The Malpas shuttle. Not running but the two short Geminis are staying anyway for contract work with Truronian.

Thanks, will these stay in first liverys or will they be painted eventually in preparation of the contract starting.

 

[On the Buses]

Thanks, will these stay in first liverys or will they be painted eventually in preparation of the contract starting.

It’s not a new contract. Truronian operate numerous contracts. Nothing is staying in First livery.

 

[Andyh82]

It looks really good. Maybe the 53 plate Geminis will get a new livery for the park and ride operation.
32350 hasn't tracked on Bustimes since late March so maybe it is away getting painted.

I notice none of the school or college services track on bus times, except for Truro College, so unlike various other operators, BusTimes doesn’t tell the full story for First Kernow and a missing bus could in theory be in use every day on a school run

 

[83G/84D]

Some recent bus service registrations that have appeared:-

Bus registration details

Registration number
PH0004983/611
Licence Number
PH0004983
Variation number
0
Status
New
Service number.
Falmouth Park and Ride
Service type
Normal Stopping
Start point
Falmouth, Ponsharden Park and Ride Site
Finish point
Falmouth, Marine Road, National Maritime Museum
Via
Date received
16 Apr 2021
Effective date
27 May 2021
End date
Supported by subsidies?
No
Local authorities covered by route
CornwallAndScillies
TAOs covered by route

West of England



Bus registration details

Registration number
PH0004983/612
Licence Number
PH0004983
Variation number
0
Status
Registered
Service number.
S1
Service type
Normal Stopping
Start point
Newquay, Tresillian Barton, Dairyland
Finish point
Pentire Headland
Via
Quintrell Downs
Date received
16 Apr 2021
Effective date
29 May 2021
End date
Supported by subsidies?
No
Local authorities covered by route
CornwallAndScillies
TAOs covered by route

West of England




Bus registration details

Registration number
PH0004983/613
Licence Number
PH0004983
Variation number
0
Status
Registered
Service number.
S2
Service type
Normal Stopping
Start point
Trevarrian, opp Travellers Rest
Finish point
Pentire Headland
Via
Watergate Bay, Porth
Date received
16 Apr 2021
Effective date
29 May 2021
End date
Supported by subsidies?
No
Local authorities covered by route
CornwallAndScillies
TAOs covered by route

West of England




Bus registration details

Registration number
PH0004983/614
Licence Number
PH0004983
Variation number
0
Status
Registered
Service number.
S3
Service type
Normal Stopping
Start point
RAF St Mawgan
Finish point
Pentire Headland
Via
St Columb Minor, Newquay
Date received
16 Apr 2021
Effective date
29 May 2021
End date
Supported by subsidies?
No
Local authorities covered by route
CornwallAndScillies
TAOs covered by route

West of England


Bus registration details

Registration number
PH0004983/615
Licence Number
PH0004983
Variation number
0
Status
Registered
Service number.
Discover Exeter
Service type
Normal Stopping
Start point
Exeter, St David's Station
Finish point
Exeter, St David's Station
Via
Exeter University, Exeter Quay
Date received
16 Apr 2021
Effective date
29 May 2021
End date
Supported by subsidies?
No
Local authorities covered by route
Devon
TAOs covered by route

West of England

Find registered local bus services - Vehicle Operator Licensing - GOV.UK

www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk

I have also seen 32757 this evening on a T2 service going towards St Ives.

 

[TechDan2002]

It looks really good. Maybe the 53 plate Geminis will get a new livery for the park and ride operation.
32350 hasn't tracked on Bustimes since late March so maybe it is away getting painted.

Anyone know which Geminis will be extras for the Lizard routes as there are only a few left unpainted, unless more are due?

32350 has been on the 231 this week tracking as 42562

 

[teggers419]

37729 was out in revised Lands End livery for the first time this season on service A1 today.

 

[Andyh82]

Are 32121-32129 (white ALX400s) still in the fleet or are they long gone?

 

[Lizard1324]

Are 32121-32129 (white ALX400s) still in the fleet or are they long gone?

There are at least 2 based at the Helston depot. I'm unsure about the rest.

 

[83G/84D]

There is at least 2 based at the helston depot. Unsure about the rest.

They are or were scattered around the place. Bodmin had some as well as Helston whilst they can also been seen regularly in Camborne. There were 4 at Helston last week.

32083 was due to leave the fleet this week and is now staying for a while according to reports elsewhere.

 

[Lizard1324]

They are or were scattered around the place. Bodmin had some as well as Helston whilst they can also been seen regularly in Camborne. There were 4 at Helston last week.

32083 was due to leave the fleet this week and is now staying for a while according to reports elsewhere.

It was on the U4 today, but was parked on the side of the road earlier looked to be broken down.

With the ALX400s leaving soon will the Plaxton Presidents be staying for much longer?

 

[charlie1284]

It was on the u4 today, but was parked on the side of the road earlier looked to be broken down.

With the alx 400s leaving soon will the plaxton presidents be staying for much longer?

My understanding is that when all the MMCs return from somerset the closed top presidents are going. Although I can't guarantee that's what's happening with them.

 

[Trainfan061193]

@On the Buses said 20 MMCs will be back in the summer as all the ALX400s will have gone to ensign by then. I don’t know yet if any closed top presidents will be going around the same time.

 

[Ancelljb]

It was on the U4 today, but was parked on the side of the road earlier looked to be broken down.

With the ALX400s leaving soon will the Plaxton Presidents be staying for much longer?

From what I remember, all ALX400s and closed Presidents are leaving. The ALXs are leaving by summer, in line with the return of 20 MMCs. Then the closed top presidents will leave upon the return of the other 10 MMCs, but no date has been given for that yet.

 

[charlie1284]

From what I remember, all ALX400s and closed Presidents are leaving. The ALXs are leaving by summer, in line with the return of 20 MMCs. Then the closed top presidents will leave upon the return of the other 10 MMCs, but no date has been given for that yet.

Yes that's what I thought.

 

[Andyh82]

It’s a shame the whole fleet doesn’t track on bustimes. I know those that don’t are probably used on closed door contracts, but I’m sure closed contracts track elsewhere, I know up in West Yorks even the yellow buses track, and they aren’t open for the general public.

 

[charlie1284]

It’s a shame the whole fleet doesn’t track on bustimes. I know those that don’t are probably used on closed door contracts, but I’m sure closed contracts track elsewhere, I know up in West Yorks even the yellow buses track, and they aren’t open for the general public.

The only buses aren't on the fleet list are the majority of the coach fleet and the promotional vehicles (eg 53040). The only other vehicles that aren't on there and are in 'general service' is 32123-29 which are on loan.

 

[Trainfan061193]

I can’t wait to come down to partake in the open toppers in Cornwall! I will be doing the Dartmoor Explorer and Exmoor Coaster too!

 

[83G/84D]

Lizard branded Solo 53254 seen at Stuart’s Volvo in mid Cornwall today.

 

[matt_splat]

The summer timetables for Kernow and Buses of Somerset are starting to appear.

http://nationaljourneyplanner.travelinesw.com/swe/XSLT_SELTT_REQUEST?itdLPxx_page=ttb

Hopefully the link will work if not in the operator search First Kernow or Buses of Somerset and then scroll down the list.

 

[richw]

Lizard branded Solo 53254 seen at Stuart’s Volvo in mid Cornwall today.

Tacho fitting.

20361 is also there for tacho repairs.

 

[Goldfish62]

The summer timetables for Kernow and BOS are starting to appear

http://nationaljourneyplanner.travelinesw.com/swe/XSLT_SELTT_REQUEST?itdLPxx_page=ttb

hopefully the link will work if not in the operator search first kernow or busses of somerset and then scroll down the list

Post #14,489 onwards discusses many of these, at least for Cornwall.

 

[On the Buses]

Yes that's what I thought.

Incorrect. Further cascades are anticipated to remove the Presidents. The five Darts need to be swapped initially for deckers too

The only buses aren't on the fleet list are the majority of the coach fleet and the promotional vehicles (eg 53040). The only other vehicles that aren't on there and are in 'general service' is 32123-29 which are on loan.

If I’m correct it’s not the fleet list that’s relevant to tracking but whether the bus is working a line that has a duty logged into the ticket machine.

 

[83G/84D]

Tacho fitting.

20361 is also there for tacho repairs.

Thanks, the latter wasn't seen guess it was inside. Dart 42560 in the workshops at Camborne tonight.

 

[richw]

If I’m correct it’s not the fleet list that’s relevant to tracking but whether the bus is working a line that has a duty logged into the ticket machine.

The fleet list on there is compiled of only the buses that have tracked on their tracking system in recent months. Duchy/Bicton allocated buses have only shown up when they’ve been out on 27/91/87