Mountain Man
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Many trains on the UK network have international equivalentsYes but they have built pendolinos for several countries was my point.
Many trains on the UK network have international equivalentsYes but they have built pendolinos for several countries was my point.
A very bad comparison. Norwich Union made little sense. It's an international financial company and no longer a localised company. Aviva was a sensible name change. Smacks of a few rebrandings of the past that were roundly panned by society at large: Aviva (Norwich Union)
Its appalling. Someone dares show light heartednessOne of the many irritations of modern life. At my work if something is broken it invariably has a sign on it beginning “Hi! I’m feeling a bit poorly” or similar. No, it’s a broken photocopier
Ridiculous
(Although I gather some people do like this sort of thing)
The new livery's dark green is awful and doesn't suit the sleek lines of the pendolino, it's an abomination, and that logo belongs in front of an investment bank rather than the side of a train and at stations
I know avanti wanted a logo which was memorable but a triangle just doesnt fit right, especially with a single A next to it
You use trainline!
any idea on when we can expect to see these in the Avanti livery
You use trainline!
I'm duly corrected, thank you, I did not realise they didn't charge a fee for same day purchases.I use the app for on the day e-ticket purchases, as it's by far the best app and fees are not presently charged for same day purchases.
I know its a bit early for any confirmation but is it likely or does anyone actually know if avanti will re brand a voyager set?
How quickly do you think the trains go?The discussion on the rolling stock design being adopted by Avanti appears to have focused on the DRMF and DMSO carriages - which with their dark colouring contrasting with intermediate vehicles to me tends to make the Pendolino (at least) look like an HST.
My major concern however is looking at the released materials is that there appears to be highly contrasting vertical banding on the intermediate vehicles with a predominately light carriage colour contrasting with very dark carriage end door bands. I consider there is a danger that this will produce a stroboscopic effect with a train at speed. This is likely to particularly affect people standing fairly close to the train on station platforms or at level crossings and particularly when there is reflected sun.
Gosh how sensitive and fragile can humans be in the 21st Century ??The discussion on the rolling stock design being adopted by Avanti appears to have focused on the DRMF and DMSO carriages - which with their dark colouring contrasting with intermediate vehicles to me tends to make the Pendolino (at least) look like an HST.
My major concern however is looking at the released materials is that there appears to be highly contrasting vertical banding on the intermediate vehicles with a predominately light carriage colour contrasting with very dark carriage end door bands. I consider there is a danger that this will produce a stroboscopic effect with a train at speed. This is likely to particularly affect people standing fairly close to the train on station platforms or at level crossings and particularly when there is reflected sun.
I know its a bit early for any confirmation but is it likely or does anyone actually know if avanti will re brand a voyager set?
I consider there is a danger that this will produce a stroboscopic effect with a train at speed. This is likely to particularly affect people standing fairly close to the train on station platforms or at level crossings and particularly when there is reflected sun.
Utterly ridiculous.
Passengers aren't that stupid.
The livery could be worse tbh. It makes a nice change from all that ridiculous red nonsense. It would have looked much nicer if they had done it Great Western Merlin style which is also what LNER should have done.
Hopefully they'll improve the interiors which is the really important part.
Seriously? Merlin is a very outdated livery, basically a green IC swallow...
Classic colour schemes never get old. Think Cunard or BA.
BA's livery isn't classic, it's relatively new.
The actual colour set hasn't changed much, but then the colour set isn't the issue people are saying about the Avanti scheme, is it?
Maybe not at Preston, but the big money is to be made on confusion into London.Given that the colours of TOCs here at Preston are mostly white or mostly blue, I doubt that a greeny-blue-with-triangle is going to cause the vast transfer of passengers from intended destination X that some people here believe.
The train colour doesn't make any difference. People will get on the wrong train anyway.Given the number of passengers I've seen who get the Northern stopper between Manchester and Sheffield when they've got a ticket only valid on East Midlands then I can't help disagreeing....
It's worth pointing out here that you have seen, at most, three mock-up suggestions of the final livery, and have based your entire dismissive response on this. I see that your continuing hatred for all things Virgin has already TUPEd over to Avanti.What issue? I'm merely stating what I would have preferred to see, that's all. I don't think it's refined enough for an IC operator. Looks more like a bus livery.
I assure you, I guarantee you, that no passenger is going to board a train at Preston having got confused about the livery, and certainly not onto a direct Euston service.Maybe not at Preston, but the big money is to be made on confusion into London.
As is 390118. 390104 and 112 however still have Virgin branding390148 now debranded
It's worth pointing out here that you have seen, at most, three mock-up suggestions of the final livery, and have based your entire dismissive response on this. I see that your continuing hatred for all things Virgin has already TUPEd over to Avanti.