Football

[d9009alycidon]

Carlisle, being so far from any other club, maybe with the exception of Workington when in the league, once had a song (still do??) "No-one hates us, we don't care" and were pleading for another club to "hate" them for the sake of a bit of rivalry!

I would have thought, although never in the same league (Scotland/England) they would have disliked the Gretna of years ago which was developed on "monopoly money" by a rich investor which then went bankrupt and demised. Happily there is a "new" Gretna (2008)!

Gretna F.C. 2008 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There was a story that Brooks Mileson, having failed to buy Carlisle United, bought Gretna at a time that Carlisle were in severe financial difficulties. His plan (allegedly) was that if Carlisle went bust, he would buy Brunton Park and move Gretna there and rename them Carlisle. A plausible plan, there is no restriction on a club based in England playing in the Scottish League, Berwick Rangers were already doing that, and he must have thought he could win over the Carlisle Utd fans with the promise of big games against Rangers and Celtic and the possibility of European football. Carlisle Utd foiled his scheme by surviving and bouncing back into the upper leagues

 

[Howardh]

There was a story that Brooks Mileson, having failed to buy Carlisle United, bought Gretna at a time that Carlisle were in severe financial difficulties. His plan (allegedly) was that if Carlisle went bust, he would buy Brunton Park and move Gretna there and rename them Carlisle. A plausible plan, there is no restriction on a club based in England playing in the Scottish League, Berwick Rangers were already doing that, and he must have thought he could win over the Carlisle Utd fans with the promise of big games against Rangers and Celtic and the possibility of European football. Carlisle Utd foiled his scheme by surviving and bouncing back into the upper leagues

Thanks for that, was a Micheal Knighton involved with Carlisle years ago too?

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Thanks for that, was a Micheal Knighton involved with Carlisle years ago too?

Yes, he was their owner/chairman for a period in the mid/late 1990s and even team manager for a time in 1997-98 before then "sacking himself". Brooks Mileson twice attempted to buy out his shareholding in the years immediately thereafter, but no deal was ever agreed.

Knighton ceded control of the Carlisle United club in mid 2002 after they'd gone into voluntary administration.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Maybe this should go in the "things that annoy you" thread, but has anyone else noticed that the BBC have taken the 'show scorers' options off the footy website and BBC Sport app when viewing the day's fixtures? A mildly annoying and backwards change!

I wonder who it was who decided to show the childish team club badge symbol in the scores section....

 

[JD2168]

Hull City have surprisingly sacked manager Liam Rosenior.

 

[SteveM70]

Hull City have surprisingly sacked manager Liam Rosenior.

The man who made Rooney look good at Derby. But Hull are another of those teams with impatient, unrealistic and irrational owners it seems

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Real Madrid 2 ... Bayern Munich 1

Joselu, on as a late sub, scores in the 88th and 91st minutes.

No dream final for Mr Kane.

 

[75A]

Shame, poor old Harry.

 

[Class15]

Real Madrid 2 ... Bayern Munich 1

Joselu, on as a late sub, scores in the 88th and 91st minutes.

No dream final for Mr Kane.

That de Ligt goal was onside.

 

[dangie]

Real Madrid 2 ... Bayern Munich 1

Joselu, on as a late sub, scores in the 88th and 91st minutes.

Ex Stoke City player…… Obviously no ambition that lad

 

[swt_passenger]

Ex Stoke City player…… Obviously no ambition that lad

Yes, but can he do it on a cold, wet, Wednesday night in Stoke?

 

[Purple Train]

The man who made Rooney look good at Derby. But Hull are another of those teams with impatient, unrealistic and irrational owners it seems

Which is interesting as Ilcali had always seemed to me like one of the better owners.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Harking back to "football banter" that cropped up recently on the thread, back in the mid-1950s, I started secondary school at St Bede's College in Manchester and at that time, the bus guard gave out paper tickets from his machine on which the initials of MCTD was shown (Manchester Corporation Transport Department?), but the vast number of pupils there were supporters of Manchester United and a school prefect told me that MCTD stood for.....
"Manchester City Two Down"

 

[Harvester]

Villa are out of the Europa Conference losing 2-0 (6-2 on aggregate) to Olympiakos. Still they reached a semi-final in Europe, the only Premier side to do so this season. Next season will be much harder in the Champions League!

 

[150249]

Bayer Leverkusen with yet another late stoppage time goal to maintain their incredible unbeaten record. Brilliant team to watch but they must give their fans heart attacks...

 

[Shaw S Hunter]

No, he's saying that because Palace and Brighton fans have a history of rivalry/bad feeling.

The Brighton/Palace rivalry seems to go back to the 1970s or 1980s, but I have no idea whether Brighton really had any other local rival - I can imagine there might have been some dislike of Portsmouth but that would be diluted as Pompey are far more concerned about Southampton.

Some of it started when Brighton turned the Palace chant of Eagles, Eagles into Seagulls, Seagulls. At the time Brighton's nickname was The Dolphins.
Pompey fans never really thought of Brighton as being anything to be concerned about, putting them on a par with Aldershot, Bournmouth and the like as far as disliking them. S...hampton on the other hand are a different matter.

That would suggest there was already a rivalry as the Eagles nickname only dates from the early to mid 1970s. Before that Palace were the Glaziers (not to be confused with the current Manchester United owners) and Brighton were the Albion.

I must admit I'm surprised that so many seem not to know the story. This article from 2013 explains all: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ween-crystal-palace-and-brighton-8611878.html
ISTR that the late Brian Moore soon termed it the M23 derby despite neither end of that road being especially close to the teams it (more or less) links.

 

[Class15]

Bayer Leverkusen with yet another late stoppage time goal to maintain their incredible unbeaten record. Brilliant team to watch but they must give their fans heart attacks...

Yes I saw that. I was watching and I just thought “come on, they’ll score”! Sure enough, 90+7, they did!

 

[Norm_D_Ploom]

That de Ligt goal was onside.

No it wasn't both De Ligt and Mazrouri were offside.

Mazrouri challenged for the header and DL scored the " goal"

The goal was correctly chalked off.

Gedge moved to Middleton at a tender age and went to school there, which probably explains his support for Manchester United

Yeah but everyone thinks he looks daft !

 

[Class15]

No it wasn't both De Ligt and Mazrouri were offside.

Mazraoui (not Mazrouri) was onside when you look closer. de Ligt wasn’t involved initially.

Whether he was onside or not, the linesman is not supposed to put his flag up!!!

 

[JD2168]

Kylian Mbappe has formally announced he will leave Paris Saint Germain at the end of the season. The favourite club to sign him is Real Madrid.

FIFA has offered peace talks with the World Leagues association in a bid to avoid possible legal action over the creation of the new Club World Cup. The competition which will take over the slot of the Confederations Cup is subject to this over players health being compromised over fixture congestion.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

In news that surprised no-one, Andre Breitenreiter has left Huddersfield Town by mutual consent following relegation to League One. The club now seeks a seventh head coach in the 22 months since Carlos Corberan walked out on the first day of pre-season training.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

In news that surprised no-one, Andre Breitenreiter has left Huddersfield Town by mutual consent following relegation to League One. The club now seeks a seventh head coach in the 22 months since Carlos Corberan walked out on the first day of pre-season training.

It will be quite some time now to look forward to Stockport County v Huddersfield Town league matches once again.

 

[dangie]

FIFA has offered peace talks with the World Leagues association in a bid to avoid possible legal action over the creation of the new Club World Cup. The competition which will take over the slot of the Confederations Cup is subject to this over players health being compromised over fixture congestion.

One would assume that the clubs involved in the Club World Cup would have a depth of top class players. The simple answer to players health due to fixture congestion is to rotate the players. Hardly rocket science.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

One would assume that the clubs involved in the Club World Cup would have a depth of top class players. The simple answer to players health due to fixture congestion is to rotate the players. Hardly rocket science.

It is the principle of too much being expected of players who already have to face playing in both home an international tournements. FIFA only look to financial implications, unfortunately.

Squad rotation does not atomatically mean that all players of exactly the same calibre, however good they are.

 

[dangie]

It is the principle of too much being expected of players who already have to face playing in both home an international tournaments. FIFA only look to financial implications, unfortunately.

I think it’s the clubs who are looking at financial implications. They simply want to acquire more money. It should really be the clubs who are looking after players health, not FIFA.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I think it’s the clubs who are looking at financial implications. They simply want to acquire more money. It should really be the clubs who are looking after players health, not FIFA.

Are there now financial implications in place concerning club matters of finance?

Have you a source for the second part of your posting above?

 

[dangie]

Have you a source for the second part of your posting above?

Just this sentence in the original post which is what I was answering to:
‘The competition which will take over the slot of the Confederations Cup is subject to this over players health being compromised over fixture congestion.’

 

[Bantamzen]

In news that surprised no-one, Andre Breitenreiter has left Huddersfield Town by mutual consent following relegation to League One. The club now seeks a seventh head coach in the 22 months since Carlos Corberan walked out on the first day of pre-season training.

The only way your season could have got worse would have been if the Mighty Bantams managed to sneak into the play-offs and won!!

So if you wouldn't mind hanging around in L1 for another season so we can make it up to you...

 

[61653 HTAFC]

The only way your season could have got worse would have been if the Mighty Bantams managed to sneak into the play-offs and won!!

So if you wouldn't mind hanging around in L1 for another season so we can make it up to you...

Last time we were in the third tier it took us a decade to get out, so the ball is in BCFC's court!

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Last time we were in the third tier it took us a decade to get out, so the ball is in BCFC's court!

Many will remember with horror, the time that Manchester City found themselves in that tier, but look at where they are now.