Football

[GrimsbyPacer]

If you're talking about the inflateable fish, I saw one. The draw is about fair I agree, if someone had an extra goal I'm sure another equaliser would have followed. I'll have a look for the penalty/drive as I missed the start. I just get annoyed when game changing mistakes happen when the 4th official could make a call but doesn't. It happens in too many matches.

I guess the only "League" Football I'll now this year is Fleetwood

 

[les.]

Gutted and devastated but proud of the team and fans.

48 games and it comes down to 1 kick of the ball. So very cruel.

 

[Smudger105e]

I just get annoyed when game changing mistakes happen when the 4th official could make a call but doesn't. It happens in too many matches.

What has this got to do with the Fourth Official? The Fourth Official's duties are clearly laid down. He can only assist the Referee, the Referee's decision is the one that matters and it is final (this is also laid down in black and white).

• A fourth official may be appointed under the competition rules and
officiates if any of the three match officials is unable to continue, unless a
reserve assistant referee is appointed. He assists the referee at all times
• Prior to the start of the competition, the organiser states clearly whether,
if the referee is unable to continue, the fourth official takes over as the
referee or whether the senior assistant referee takes over as referee with
the fourth official becoming an assistant referee
• The fourth official assists with any administrative duties before, during and
after the match, as required by the referee
• He is responsible for assisting with substitution procedures during the
match
• He has the authority to check the equipment of substitutes before they
enter the field of play. If their equipment does not comply with the Laws of
the Game, he informs the referee
• He supervises the replacement balls, where required. If the match ball has
to be replaced during a match, he provides another ball, on the instruction
of the referee, thus keeping the delay to a minimum
• He assists the referee to control the match in accordance with the Laws
of the Game. The referee, however, retains the authority to decide on all
points connected with play.
• After the match, the fourth official must submit a report to the appropriate
authorities on any misconduct or other incident that occurred out of the
view of the referee and the assistant referees. The fourth official must
advise the referee and his assistants of any report being made
• He has the authority to inform the referee of irresponsible behaviour by any
occupant of the technical area

Extract from the Laws of Association Football http://www.thefa.com/my-football/referee/laws-of-the-game

 

[DarloRich]

If you're talking about the inflateable fish, I saw one. The draw is about fair I agree, if someone had an extra goal I'm sure another equaliser would have followed. I'll have a look for the penalty/drive as I missed the start. I just get annoyed when game changing mistakes happen when the 4th official could make a call but doesn't. It happens in too many matches.

I guess the only "League" Football I'll now this year is Fleetwood

there wouldn't have been an equaliser - both teams were dead on their feet and had nothing left in extra time. Grimsby forced the better chances in that period but couldn't find the net. Rovers seemed keen to get to penalties from about 85 minutes.

There are some pictures from Wembley here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/darlo2009/sets/72157652997872011

 

[Kite159]

So Arsenal looking like to avoiding the champions league playoff in august.

This might be interesting if Man Utd have nothing to play for against Hull, will they 'slip' up and give Hull the win?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

So Arsenal looking like to avoiding the champions league play-off in August.

This might be interesting if Man Utd have nothing to play for against Hull, will they 'slip' up and give Hull the win?

You only need to cast your mind back as far as 2nd May when the following result occurred...Manchester United 0...West Bromwich Albion 1

 

[Tetchytyke]

So Arsenal looking like to avoiding the champions league playoff in august.

This might be interesting if Man Utd have nothing to play for against Hull, will they 'slip' up and give Hull the win?

Barring a seven-goal swing in goal difference on the final day, a point against Sunderland should be enough to guarantee 3rd.

Manchester United "slipping up" might have been more likely when Fergie was in charge, to help out his old mate, but I'm not so sure now.

If Hull win and Newcastle lose, they go down. Newcastle play West Ham on the final day. I'm sure it would give Allardyce no pleasure at all to relegate them...

 

[Antman]

Barring a seven-goal swing in goal difference on the final day, a point against Sunderland should be enough to guarantee 3rd.

Manchester United "slipping up" might have been more likely when Fergie was in charge, to help out his old mate, but I'm not so sure now.

If Hull win and Newcastle lose, they go down. Newcastle play West Ham on the final day. I'm sure it would give Allardyce no pleasure at all to relegate them...

Are you serious or were you being ironic? I would have thought Big Sam would take great delight in putting one over the club that sacked him.

 

[CC 72100]

Barring a seven-goal swing in goal difference on the final day, a point against Sunderland should be enough to guarantee 3rd.

Manchester United "slipping up" might have been more likely when Fergie was in charge, to help out his old mate, but I'm not so sure now.

If Hull win and Newcastle lose, they go down. Newcastle play West Ham on the final day. I'm sure it would give Allardyce no pleasure at all to relegate them...

Are you trying to suggest that Man Utd would deliberately 'throw away' games just to help a manager who used to be at the club?

For what it's worth, I also agree that West Ham will be very up for it up in Newcastle given the history with big Sam and his employment there.
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Are you serious or were you being ironic? I would have thought Big Sam would take great delight in putting one over the club that sacked him.

I think he was being ironic

 

[Tetchytyke]

Are you trying to suggest that Man Utd would deliberately 'throw away' games just to help a manager who used to be at the club?

Deliberately? Of course not.

But they helped West Ham all those years ago, just before Tevez signed for them...

 

[CC 72100]

Deliberately? Of course not.

But they helped West Ham all those years ago, just before Tevez signed for them...

What do you mean by 'helped'?

Weaker teams may get played (especially if you've played a lot of football - not that we have this year!), some players may be thinking of holidays to the Carribean, but I don't believe that there is some sort of deliberate 'right guys, let's do Brucey a favour' thing going on.

 

[Clip]

It was rather ironic to see who was the Crystal Palace manager in their winning match against Liverpool at Anfield yesterday, noting the managerial problems that currently affect Newcastle United.

Pardew will go the same way he has at each club he has been at. Great for a little while then gets found out and everything turns to ****.

I cant even enjoy Villa getting a humping due to us losing at QPR. How cruel the world is.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Are you trying to suggest that Man Utd would deliberately 'throw away' games just to help a manager who used to be at the club?

Delving deep in my football archives, exactly 100 years ago in 1915, there occurred "The 1915 British football betting scandal", which featured a First Division match between Manchester United, who were at home to Liverpool.

At that time, Manchester United were struggling to avoid relegation to the Second Division whilst Liverpool had a comfortable mid-table position. The match ended in a 2-0 victory for Manchester United with George Anderson scoring both the goals. However, the referee and some official observers noted the very surprising lack of commitment by the Liverpool team during the match, in which Liverpool also missed a penalty that had been awarded to them.

Perhaps the fact it was common knowledge that the Football League would suspend the football matches after the 1914/1915 season on account of players being called up to fight in the Great War. After the match was finished, handbills began to be circulated that alleged that a large sum of money had been bet on Manchester United winning 2-0...at the very large odds of 7/1.

A subsequent Football Association found that players from both sides had been involved in the rigging of the match score and result. One famous player who was NOT involved in the misfeasance, the great Billy Meredith, said when summoned to give evidence to the enquiry that he became more and more suspicious as the match progressed as none of his teammates would pass the ball back to him.

Three players of Manchester United and four players from Liverpool were all found to be guilty in the fixing of the score and result of this match and all seven players were banned for life in the decision that was reached and publicised on 27th December. However, the match result was allowed to stand and neither the clubs of Manchester United and Liverpool were fined nor had any points deducted.

 

[CC 72100]

However, the referee and some official observers noted the very surprising lack of commitment by the Liverpool team during the match, in which Liverpool also missed a penalty that had been awarded to them.

Some would say the away team getting a penalty at Man United sounds dodgy enough

Thanks for that insight Paul, I was thinking more along recent history lines but an interesting story nonetheless.

 

[gazzak]

Pardew will go the same way he has at each club he has been at. Great for a little while then gets found out and everything turns to ****.

To be fair to Pardew Newcastle have only gone one way since he left.

 

[Clip]

To be fair to Pardew Newcastle have only gone one way since he left.

Indeed we were heading that way anyway with him there. Makes no difference

 

[DarloRich]

The Newcastle United Comedy Club will survive another season due to the fact that Hull wont beat United. Bruce has had about 900000 attempts and lost almost all. That wont change on Saturday. Newcastle may well get beaten by West Ham as BFS will be after revenge but will stay up, just.

Things need to change at Sid James Park as it is now like mocking the afflicted rather than laughing at the deluded mags. Oh for the three legends phone in!

 

[MidnightFlyer]

That wont change on Saturday.

It could change on Sunday though

 

[Clip]

The Newcastle United Comedy Club will survive another season due to the fact that Hull wont beat United. Bruce has had about 900000 attempts and lost almost all. That wont change on Saturday. Newcastle may well get beaten by West Ham as BFS will be after revenge but will stay up, just.

Things need to change at Sid James Park as it is now like mocking the afflicted rather than laughing at the deluded mags. Oh for the three legends phone in!

Ahh yes, deluded mags, that's what you call us. We still have no idea how you lot have come to this conclusion however you keep running with it if it makes you happy

But yeah maybe get the day right before you try and have a pop.

 

[DarloRich]

Ahh yes, deluded mags, that's what you call us. We still have no idea how you lot have come to this conclusion however you keep running with it if it makes you happy

But yeah maybe get the day right before you try and have a pop.

have you won a trophy in colour

I dont actually mind Newcastle or NUFC - I lived there for 4 years! but some of the fans live in cloud cuckoo land about the status/propsects of the club. Something does need to change there though.

PS Football SHOULD kick off at 3pm on a Saturday.

 

[St Rollox]

have you won a trophy in colour

I dont actually mind Newcastle or NUFC - I lived there for 4 years! but some of the fans live in cloud cuckoo land about the status/propsects of the club. Something does need to change there though.

PS Football SHOULD kick off at 3pm on a Saturday.

Don't know about Newcastle but i remember their local rivals Sunderland beating Leeds Utd in a FA cup final many years ago.
That was in colour.

 

[tony_mac]

Barring a seven-goal swing in goal difference on the final day, a point against Sunderland should be enough to guarantee 3rd.

Seeing as both sides realistically only need 1 point, I wonder if 5/1 for the draw is worth a punt....

 

[richw]

Barring a seven-goal swing in goal difference on the final day, a point against Sunderland should be enough to guarantee 3rd.

Manchester United "slipping up" might have been more likely when Fergie was in charge, to help out his old mate, but I'm not so sure now.

If Hull win and Newcastle lose, they go down. Newcastle play West Ham on the final day. I'm sure it would give Allardyce no pleasure at all to relegate them...

But will Steve Bruce want to ensure the team he is at next season remains in the Prem?

 

[Minilad]

Pardew will go the same way he has at each club he has been at. Great for a little while then gets found out and everything turns to ****.

I cant even enjoy Villa getting a humping due to us losing at QPR. How cruel the world is.

Awwwww bless. Still holding the petty little grudge I see. Bless

 

[richw]

Chelsea gone on holiday already?

Fabregas has certainly booked an early holiday tonight. John terry tried to get his early holiday and failed.

 

[Donny Dave]

Chelsea gone on holiday already?

Fabregas has certainly booked an early holiday tonight. John terry tried to get his early holiday and failed.

I can see why Fabregas has had so many assists this season though, inch perfect from all of 20 yards!

 

[Clip]

have you won a trophy in colour

I dont actually mind Newcastle or NUFC - I lived there for 4 years! but some of the fans live in cloud cuckoo land about the status/propsects of the club. Something does need to change there though.

PS Football SHOULD kick off at 3pm on a Saturday.

The Intertoto must count all most of us want is to watch a team that can actually play football not the shower that has been served up for the last couple of years.

Awwwww bless. Still holding the petty little grudge I see. Bless

Just don't like Villa. Along with loads of others

 

[Tetchytyke]

some of the fans live in cloud cuckoo land about the status/propsects of the club.

I lived there for ten years. I really don't agree.

Newcastle United are a big club and should be comfortably in mid-table Premier League every season. Thanks to the oligarchs the Champions League is probably beyond them these days, even though they got to the Champions League relatively often in the late 90s/early 2000s, but a club of that stature should not be scrabbling around to stay in the Premier League.

They are because of mismanagement, I don't think any Newcastle fans think they don't deserve to be where they are, it's just that a club of that size should be better managed. The truth is that Pardew was good for a low mid-table spot and nothing else, but Ashley took the cheap option after he went and thought they'd be safe. A big part of me hopes they go down just to teach him a lesson.

 

[DarloRich]

The Intertoto must count

The intertoto wasn't even a cup - you got a certificate!

all most of us want is to watch a team that can actually play football not the shower that has been served up for the last couple of years.

I think most of my friends who support Newcastle want the same. And Ashley out!
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Newcastle United are a big club

Fan base wise perhaps - not results wise

Last league championship: 1926-27
Last FA cup: 1955
Last League cup: ?
Last Euro trophy: 1969 ( intertoto in 2006)

I recall a time, quite recently, when Sid James wasn't nearly as full as it is now. Under 17,000 average attendance in 1991 and only really rising to the 50,000 + level in the early 2000's

should be comfortably in mid-table Premier League every season. Thanks to the oligarchs the Champions League is probably beyond them these days, even though they got to the Champions League relatively often in the late 90s/early 2000s, but a club of that stature should not be scrabbling around to stay in the Premier League.

perhaps they shouldn't be but they aren't. They have bought some poor players, appointed a poor manager, made a series of poor choices on staff and are owned by someone who doesn't really seem to care and ultimately they haven't won enough games

They are because of mismanagement, I don't think any Newcastle fans think they don't deserve to be where they are, it's just that a club of that size should be better managed. The truth is that Pardew was good for a low mid-table spot and nothing else, but Ashley took the cheap option after he went and thought they'd be safe. A big part of me hopes they go down just to teach him a lesson.

The club is well managed from a financial point of view, what they aren't doing is taking the Freddie Sheppard approach to management which is to over splurge millions on semi skilled footballers who fail to perform.

Instead Ashley is spending more modestly on more moderately under skilled footballers

 

[Antman]

I lived there for ten years. I really don't agree.

Newcastle United are a big club and should be comfortably in mid-table Premier League every season. Thanks to the oligarchs the Champions League is probably beyond them these days, even though they got to the Champions League relatively often in the late 90s/early 2000s, but a club of that stature should not be scrabbling around to stay in the Premier League.

They are because of mismanagement, I don't think any Newcastle fans think they don't deserve to be where they are, it's just that a club of that size should be better managed. The truth is that Pardew was good for a low mid-table spot and nothing else, but Ashley took the cheap option after he went and thought they'd be safe. A big part of me hopes they go down just to teach him a lesson.

I've got family there and a club of that size should be looking at CL qualification not escaping relegation!

I really hope they go down, it's certainly not beyond the realms of possibility for them to lose at home to West Ham and Hull City to beat Man Utd.
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I can see why Fabregas has had so many assists this season though, inch perfect from all of 20 yards!

Surely one of the most ridiculous red cards ever?

He did get away with one in the Liverpool game but two wrongs don't make a right