dk1
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What better reason ))))Random guess as to what the Scottish places you'll be bussing through have in common?
'Spoons?
What better reason ))))Random guess as to what the Scottish places you'll be bussing through have in common?
'Spoons?
A YouGov poll for the London Evening Standard today suggests 53% of Londoners are concerned about using the tube. 48% are concerned about buses and 42% about trains.
If you ask a crossection of the population you'll pick up regular public transport users, occasional users and those who'd never use a bus or train. The tube scared many people before Covid!I know there is some skepticism about these polls though. It may be that those concerned about using public transport did not use them much pre covid anyway.
Precisely!What better reason ))))
Yes.As lockdown is easing, can anyone tell me if leisure travel between England and Wales, and leisure travel in Wales for an Englishman, is permitted please?
Yes.
It was back in the April changes, as if I recall Wales opens up some services before England. (haircuts spring to mind.). Wales were appealing for people not to cross the boarder for a haircut.Cheers - trawling through the guidance on the Wales website is a bit of a pain.
Yep, I was out on the South Bank near Waterloo yesterday afternoon/evening and it felt pretty normal to me.Perhaps they only select those people that are scared of their own shadow. You would think Londoners in particular would just get on with things.
Nope. Given 90+% didn't wear them before it became mandatory I think mask enthusiasts are very much in the minority.I wonder if masks were made optional, it would cause a social split. For example, playing loud music and talking loudly on your phone in a busy carriage is frowned upon, but generally not illegal.
Would NOT wearing a mask be frowned upon and be socially unacceptable, even if it was made optional?
Yesterday I was on the Central line. It was delayed a few minutes at Tottenham Court Road owing to an unattended bag. At Oxford Circus there was quite a crowd waiting. They all piled on. The front three coaches were full, just like the good old days! I didn't spot anyone refusing to get on, even though there were several trains behind at one minute intervals.Perhaps they only select those people that are scared of their own shadow. You would think Londoners in particular would just get on with things.
Good to hear.Yesterday I was on the Central line. It was delayed a few minutes at Tottenham Court Road owing to an unattended bag. At Oxford Circus there was quite a crowd waiting. They all piled on. The front three coaches were full, just like the good old days! I didn't spot anyone refusing to get on, even though there were several trains behind at one minute intervals.
I would have waited even in the good old days.Yesterday I was on the Central line. It was delayed a few minutes at Tottenham Court Road owing to an unattended bag. At Oxford Circus there was quite a crowd waiting. They all piled on. The front three coaches were full, just like the good old days! I didn't spot anyone refusing to get on, even though there were several trains behind at one minute intervals.
I would have waited even in the good old days.
I've never understood why almost everyone tries to pile onto a late tube train. It just makes it even later. Nowadays it's easy to see the next trains are right behind and will be progressively less full to all but empty.Yesterday I was on the Central line. It was delayed a few minutes at Tottenham Court Road owing to an unattended bag. At Oxford Circus there was quite a crowd waiting. They all piled on. The front three coaches were full, just like the good old days! I didn't spot anyone refusing to get on, even though there were several trains behind at one minute intervals.
In the central area, passengers have no clue as to whether the train in front of them is on time or late. All they know for sure is that it is there and that they can squeeze on. Hence, they will arrive at their destination sooner than waiting for the next train.I've never understood why almost everyone tries to pile onto a late tube train. It just makes it even later.
Forgive me, I haven't used the tube for a couple of years, but my memory says the platform indicators scroll with the time until at least the next 2 or 3 trains and where they go. Unless I needed a connection I'd always stand back from a train that was badly delayed unless the next was showing a long way behind. They manage to show next 6 buses on a stop near me, although only 2 show at a view.In the central area, passengers have no clue as to whether the train in front of them is on time or late. All they know for sure is that it is there and that they can squeeze on. Hence, they will arrive at their destination sooner than waiting for the next train.
Personally, I'll let one sardine can go. If the next is just as bad, I am another sardine.
Forgive me, I haven't used the tube for a couple of years, but my memory says the platform indicators scroll with the time until at least the next 2 or 3 trains and where they go. Unless I needed a connection I'd always stand back from a train that was badly delayed unless the next was showing a long way behind. They manage to show next 6 buses on a stop near me, although only 2 show at a view.
Yes, indeed. A seasoned commuter always gets the first train.A train in the platform is worth half a dozen hypothetical ones on the departure board. That’s the seasoned commuter logic, anyway.
On the Central line, ‘waiting for the second advertised Hainault train in three minutes’ is usually a jinx. In that three minutes, they’ll turn it into a Loughton reverser.
Could someone please direct me to the thread for how the railway might look with 'new normal' more working at/ from home and less commuting/ 'peaktime' travel?Perhaps they only select those people that are scared of their own shadow. You would think Londoners in particular would just get on with things.
That's why I avoid the tube in central London and walk if I have time!A train in the platform is worth half a dozen hypothetical ones on the departure board. That’s the seasoned commuter logic, anyway.
On the Central line, ‘waiting for the second advertised Hainault train in three minutes’ is usually a jinx. In that three minutes, they’ll turn it into a Loughton reverser.
Government are still pushing the work from home policy. Until that is removed employers won't be able to bring all their staff back in. We can see that very many have got so used to not going in that they will never return. It suits many employees and employers alike. They won't hear platform announcements at homeAt Euston tube station yesterday they were still playing a very off putting prerecorded message telling potential passengers to minimise travel, to walk or cycle instead and to work from home.
Hopefully such messaging will be a thing of past very soon and will not return. Telling passengers not to use public transport is not exactly going to encourage people back on trains.
That would make sense. It's also made me wonder what would happen with cross-border routes - would English or Welsh rules apply? Or would they be forced to let loads of passengers off at the border to make sure their loads halved once they entered Wales? It's a bit of a minefield!Bus operators in Wales are pushing the Welsh Government to allow us to copy England abd take full loads on buses again
That would make sense. It's also made me wonder what would happen with cross-border routes - would English or Welsh rules apply? Or would they be forced to let loads of passengers off at the border to make sure their loads halved once they entered Wales? It's a bit of a minefield!
There is none of this at Liverpool Street. Stratford is getting very busy again. The Central line and Shenfield platforms are constantly well filled. Even the 8/12 car dusty bins out to Southend, Colchester etc. are filling up again. Gives me hope to be honest.At Euston tube station yesterday they were still playing a very off putting prerecorded message telling potential passengers to minimise travel, to walk or cycle instead and to work from home.
Hopefully such messaging will be a thing of past very soon and will not return. Telling passengers not to use public transport is not exactly going to encourage people back on trains.
To be fair Euston is the only station I have heard this message, however I did hear it the previous time I passed through Euston in April.There is none of this at Liverpool Street. Stratford is getting very busy again. The Central line and Shenfield platforms are constantly well filled. Even the 8/12 car dusty bins out to Southend, Colchester etc. are filling up again. Gives me hope to be honest.
The government cannot expect the private sector to bring their employees back to the office when their own are still sat at home. If they want workers back in the city centres then they need to set an example.Government are still pushing the work from home policy. Until that is removed employers won't be able to bring all their staff back in. We can see that very many have got so used to not going in that they will never return. It suits many employees and employers alike. They won't hear platform announcements at home