TheBeard
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47593 definitely had a Scottie dog like that in 1988
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12LDA28C
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47637 IC red stripe, Scotrail brand, westie logo, shown here.
Inverness stag adorned IC-Scotrail examples were certainly the more common sights in my Rail Rovers of 1988 & 1990.
Interesting, perhaps that was the only one to feature a Westie then. Only a few IC-liveried locos carried the ScotRail branding, those being 47430, 47541, 47637/642/643 I believe.
I have a photo of it at ED on 24/08/88 without, unless it was only on one side.
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swidnod
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You can add 47461 & 47492 to that list
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47492 in ScotRail Intercity livery stands at Bath Spa with a Parcel Train. 26-03-1992
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Sun Chariot
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You are right. Here it is
Image shows 47593 in 1988 at Dunblane, sporting red stripe, InterCity branding and unmistakable dog logo.
47593 Dunblane
1T20 10:55 Inverness to Glasgow QS approaches Dunblane led by 47593 'Galloway Princess'. In the background, a class 108 unit waits to cross over to form 2P16 14:26 to Edinburgh. On the left is the truncated remains of the Callander branch which closed in June 1965. May 1988
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Errrr, neither of the linked photos has a West Highland White dog logo on.
47492 has standard Inverness turn-out, of InterCity red stripe and Highland stag logo.
47461 has neither a stag nor a dog; although I saw it August 1988 sporting blue stripe and Highland stag logo.
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swidnod
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I appreciate they didn't have depot emblems, but I was responding to the livery!!You are right. Here it is
Image shows 47593 in 1988 at Dunblane, sporting red stripe, InterCity branding and unmistakable dog logo.
47593 Dunblane
1T20 10:55 Inverness to Glasgow QS approaches Dunblane led by 47593 'Galloway Princess'. In the background, a class 108 unit waits to cross over to form 2P16 14:26 to Edinburgh. On the left is the truncated remains of the Callander branch which closed in June 1965. May 1988
Errrr, neither of the linked photos has a West Hughland White dog logo on.
47492 has standard Inverness turn-out, of InterCity red stripe and Highland stag logo. 47541 was similarly treated, amongst others.
47461 has neither a stag nor a dog; although I saw it August 1988 sporting blue stripe and Highland stag logo.
Sun Chariot
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Post #1198...
I don't recall any IC-liveried locos carrying a Westie
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OK, so I got the question wrong....apologies!!
Anyway the argument is irrelevant as LSL will stick a dog/castle/stag on it if they feel like it, whether authentic or not.
I refer to the livery worn by 37401 & 37409 as evidence that LSL will do what they like (and rightly so, as the owners).
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12LDA28C
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You are right. Here it is
Image shows 47593 in 1988 at Dunblane, sporting red stripe, InterCity branding and unmistakable dog logo.
47593 Dunblane
1T20 10:55 Inverness to Glasgow QS approaches Dunblane led by 47593 'Galloway Princess'. In the background, a class 108 unit waits to cross over to form 2P16 14:26 to Edinburgh. On the left is the truncated remains of the Callander branch which closed in June 1965. May 1988
Interesting. That dog had been removed by the August when I saw the loco at ED.
Sun Chariot
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Did your photo of 593 get taken from the same side, or the other side, to the photo I linked from Flickr?
It'll be interesting to see whether it emerges this spring with one, two or no West Highland White terriers on it.
OT but I'll sift my 35mm photos of that period, to hunt out the Scottish 'uns.
This may be a sacrilegious comment, but I'd quite like to see more of the fleet in the LNWR style lined black livery. I did a Statesman last year with 57002 and it looked very smart in that livery with the Locomotive Services logo on it. You can now all feel free to lay into me!
Sun Chariot
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It's good to see loco owners doing more than "what it had in BR days", I agree. The Scotrail-homage 37/4s I really do like. 37418 Loram Rail colours I rather like too.
And, after all, BR's Stratford depot was doing their own thing for years! Grey roofed 47s when everything on BR was in all-blue; the Silver Jubilee "Union Flag" twins 47173 and 47174; 47170 displaying a future nod to large-logo; 47583 with a red-white-blue logo; 37116 in unique livery; the list goes on!
Years ago - around the time 97561 (later 47973) appeared in its quasi-Midland red livery, I recall a feature in the modelling press (ModelRAIL possibly) where the author had re-sprayed Lima 47s into fictitious liveries. One was - yep, you guessed - lined black, although I think it was closer to British Railways' steam red + straw lining. Looked the business.
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12LDA28C
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Did your photo of 593 get taken from the same side, or the other side, to the photo I linked from Flickr?
It'll be interesting to see whether it emerges this spring with one, two or no West Highland White terriers on it.
OT but I'll sift my 35mm photos of that period, to hunt out the Scottish 'uns.
The same side - see photo:
every day is a school day. I didn't remember the dog above the nameplate.You are right. Here it is
Image shows 47593 in 1988 at Dunblane, sporting red stripe, InterCity branding and unmistakable dog logo.
47593 Dunblane
1T20 10:55 Inverness to Glasgow QS approaches Dunblane led by 47593 'Galloway Princess'. In the background, a class 108 unit waits to cross over to form 2P16 14:26 to Edinburgh. On the left is the truncated remains of the Callander branch which closed in June 1965. May 1988
Errrr, neither of the linked photos has a West Highland White dog logo on.
47492 has standard Inverness turn-out, of InterCity red stripe and Highland stag logo.
47461 has neither a stag nor a dog; although I saw it August 1988 sporting blue stripe and Highland stag logo.
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12LDA28C
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It's a smart looking livery and is almost identical to the livery worn by Pete Waterman's 47s in the mid-to-late 1990s.
I agree it is a good looking livery but hopefully the Ronnies just have it. Not the 47's. Maybe add the Locomotive services logo if needed.
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Iskra
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Anybody know why Blue Peter seems to have gone back to Carlisle after initially heading out down the Cumbrian Coast?
pokemonsuper9
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I think https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/fires-on-the-cumbria-coast.284340/#post-7234370 is your answer.
Iskra
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And is it going back via Shap instead?
From what I can gather online, the stock seems to be in P1 and Blue Peter has gone to Upperby sidings, presumably for more water before heading South.
A path has appeared on RTT for an LSL move from Carlisle to Carnforth this evening.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
There is also one for a light locomotive heading North to Upperby sidings later on today.
Update: Blue Peter and support coach have just passed me. Passengers following in a separate diesel hauled train.
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From what I can gather online, the stock seems to be in P1 and Blue Peter has gone to Upperby sidings, presumably for more water before heading South.
A path has appeared on RTT for an LSL move from Carlisle to Carnforth this evening.
Realtime Trains | 5Z34 1852 Upperby Jn to Carnforth North Jn | 05/04/2025
Real-time train running information for 5Z34 1852 departure from Upperby Jn to Carnforth North Jn on 05/04/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
There is also one for a light locomotive heading North to Upperby sidings later on today.
Update: Blue Peter and support coach have just passed me. Passengers following in a separate diesel hauled train.
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Iskra
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My video from today featuring Tangmere, Blue Peter and Andania
So here we are, 47593 has emerged in Intercity.
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Sun Chariot
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Stunning job and just how I remember them in the 1980s. That takes me back to the sight of ex-works 47620 Windsor Castle, IC sparkling in Paddington's late afternoon sunlight.
That takes me back to the sight of ex-works 47620 Windsor Castle, IC sparkling in Paddington's late afternoon sunlight.
Iskra
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Beautiful. Can’t wait to see that out and about on the Intercity rake. Well done to all concerned!
50002Superb
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Wow
ExRes
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RTT showing that this mornings 0600 1Z33 St Ives to Shrewsbury had a 3 hour delay at Penzance departing 188 late, hope nobody writes to the boss for a refund ......
Nym
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You really expect that the boss of that business would allow for a refund…?
ExRes
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My expectation is that he's on it
150249
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problem with 37521 apparently