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P Binnersley

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You've also made the ridiculous assumption that the people in attendance work Monday to Friday, nine to five and that they need a day off in order to attend. :rolleyes:
If the original tweet ("We HIRED 100 Boris Johnson’s") is correct they are at work!
 
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BBC News are now reporting another party on 17th December 2020. This time the event in question was a leaving party for Kate Jones - the then civil service leader of the Covid taskforce.
 

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This could all have been avoided if the Covid measures had been advisory rather than compulsory.
 

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BBC News are now reporting another party on 17th December 2020.

Yes, Mr D*****c C******s must be very busy on Twitter today.

Either that, or he has spilled the beans to the BBC, who are now exposing all the skeletons in the government's cupboard to a carefully timed schedule.
 

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Did find it quite amusing though, on the tv when they interviewed some of those that had been 'caught and fined' who said, don't care about what Boris did, can I have my £100 back !
 

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And how many of
So what.

Loads of people will have held parties/gatherings in their private back gardens during lockdown, e.g. for the 75th anniversary of VE day.

All this fuss about Bojo is British humbug.

Putin would have dealt with the leakers effectively (or may be not - he bungled in disposing of Skripov and Navalny).

The British upper class is all about "do what I say (not what I do)" and "don't be found out", unlike (ex-HRH) Prince Randy Pandy.
How many of them received police visits or fines during this time? How many were under more scrutiny than the government clearly were at this time?
 

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Did find it quite amusing though, on the tv when they interviewed some of those that had been 'caught and fined' who said, don't care about what Boris did, can I have my £100 back !

And this is the problem.

Many people quite possibly don't care about Johnson having a party as such. They *do* care that they were themselves subject to restrictions, and that people were fined.

It gives a toxic impression that the politicians - rule setters - feel themselves brazenly above the law. It's also very disrespectful especially towards people who weren't able to do what they would have liked to have done with their dying loved ones as a result of restrictions which they themselves followed.

It also points to a dysfunctional and arrogant Downing Street, rather like what happens in a workplace where there's a useless manager who can't keep control of the staff and has no idea what's going on. This is just as much an issue as anything else, as it raises questions regarding Johnson's competence / suitability for role.
 

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It also points to a dysfunctional and arrogant Downing Street, rather like what happens in a workplace where there's a useless manager who can't keep control of the staff and has no idea what's going on. This is just as much an issue as anything else, as it raises questions regarding Johnson's competence / suitability for role.

Allowing staff to hold a "leaving do" on the day before the Duke of Edinburgh's funeral was insensitive to say the least.

Particularly when they ran out of booze and had to go to a nearby Co-op for more.

Boris has had to apologise to The Queen, and it probably means he won't get a gong from her when he leaves office later this year.
 

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Allowing staff to hold a "leaving do" on the day before the Duke of Edinburgh's funeral was insensitive to say the least.

Particularly when they ran out of booze and had to go to a nearby Co-op for more.

Boris has had to apologise to The Queen, and it probably means he won't get a gong from her when he leaves office later this year.
But has Boris himself apologised to the queen? It sounds like someone at No. 10 has apologised, well it seems like a bit half-hearted apology, but Boris himself has made no such apology.
I can't begin to imagine how Pi***d The Queen is at the moment, and I don't blame her. I wpuld be ringing boris up and wanting answers.
 

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Honestly, you won't like this - but I know for a fact the majority of us on here have broken one rule or another. Certainly, I know a lot of us here refuse to wear masks, and with good reason, because they do contribute to an authoritarian society. I am not going to be hypocritical and scream rage because they've broken rules when I have too. I don't believe it's any worse just because they're politicians.
People on here who broke rules didn’t set those rules and tell people they were expected to follow them & introduce legislation that prosecuted rule breakers
The politicians and Civil Servants did that is where the double stand exists
 

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Correct, and I have no sympathy for them. They made these measures mandatory and then decided to break them.

It also raises the question as to whether the executive actually thought the various measures were necessary or not. If they did, then why were they not observing them? If they didn't, then why did they implement them for the population?

One way or other, pretty galling for, say, a business owner who had to scrape the pennies to keep things ticking over through the various lockdowns. Like, for example, the flower shop in my town who got fined for setting up a trestle table in their doorway to take orders - including orders for funerals.
 

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But has Boris himself apologised to the queen? It sounds like someone at No. 10 has apologised, well it seems like a bit half-hearted apology, but Boris himself has made no such apology.
Boris hasn't even apologised for the piss-up on May 20th. He's only apologised for "not realising it wasn't a work function". He doesn't do apologies, and believes rules don't apply to him. There's a report from his university tutor saying the same thing, so this is a lifelong trait.
 

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Boris hasn't even apologised for the piss-up on May 20th. He's only apologised for "not realising it wasn't a work function". He doesn't do apologies, and believes rules don't apply to him. There's a report from his university tutor saying the same thing, so this is a lifelong trait.
Quite, he has no morals whatsoever. He'll do whatever he can get away with and even when he's caught he doesn't care, I guess he thinks/knows that other people in his party have also been breaking the law so he knows no one will stop him/chastise him for his misdemeanors.
 

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I think cheating on your wife is a little more serious then some post work drinks in the office.
I don't see why. Cheating its not illegal, whereas these gatherings at the time were.

I think it reflects rather badly on society that so many people care more about politicians' private lives than about their suitability for their roles.
 

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Quite, he has no morals whatsoever. He'll do whatever he can get away with and even when he's caught he doesn't care, I guess he thinks/knows that other people in his party have also been breaking the law so he knows no one will stop him/chastise him for his misdemeanors.

True - a charlatan. I heard a radio show host say, when referring to Johnson's Brexit position, that he'd of become a hippy if he thought it would enhance his chances to become PM.
 

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The problem with handcock isn't that he had an affair, but that he had it quite literally in office when we plebs weren't allowed in the office and he broke the very guidelines he was signing off on as health secretary. Although the way he then subsequently dealt with said affair would be a reasonable thing to get angry at. Also, there is a thread dedicated to the discussion of mr handcock.
 

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People on here who broke rules didn’t set those rules and tell people they were expected to follow them & introduce legislation that prosecuted rule breakers
The politicians and Civil Servants did that is where the double stand exists
That’s because it’s their job to. For example, at work (food industry), I have to instruct people I’m supervising not to chew gum and use phones in the kitchen because it is my job to tell people that, or I’d get demoted from my supervisor position. God knows I do both though, and willingly let others.

Perhaps I’m just too lenient minded, who knows? I respect everyone’s opinions though, only mine won’t change - I don’t really care about the party to be honest and believe reactions to be very over the top. Those who don’t like the tories or current government have struck gold and are only too delighted to use it as a way to slag them off further also.
 

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First we had "Operation Last Gasp", now Johnson has reportedly come up with the latest plan to try and save himself..."Operation Save Big Dog", which involves him doing what he does best, throwing officials under a bus to save himself:


Boris Johnson is drawing up a list of officials to offer resignations over partygate in a bid to salvage his premiership, The Independent has learned.

Dubbed “Operation Save Big Dog” by the prime minister himself, the blueprint includes a drive to work out which heads should roll following the publication of senior official Sue Gray’s findings, as well as highlighting the prime minister’s achievements, according to sources. Officials have also started using the codename, The Independent understands.

Dan Rosenfield, Boris Johnson’s chief of staff, and Martin Reynolds, his private secretary and author of the ‘BYOB’ email, have both been noted as possible departures.

I have no words to describe this latest revelation:


Downing Street staff held 'wine-time Fridays' throughout the pandemic with Boris Johnson regularly witnessing the gatherings.

Sources told the Mirror that the Prime Minister encouraged aides to “let off steam” despite indoor socialising being banned under lockdown rules.

The regular event was so popular that staff even invested in a £142 drinks fridge to keep their bottles of white wine, Prosecco and beer cool.

Reports that staff took a suitcase to a supermarket to stock up on booze ahead of a party on the eve of Prince Philip’s funeral were not a one-off.

Sources claimed that aides took turns on Fridays to visit the local Tesco Metro in Westminster with a trolley suitcase to fill up the 34-bottle capacity fridge.




A picture has emerged of a wine fridge being delivered to Downing Street


A picture has emerged of a wine fridge being delivered to Downing Street

The fridge has the capacity for 34 wine bottles


The fridge has the capacity for 34 wine bottles
An extraordinary picture has emerged of the chiller being delivered through the back door of Downing Street on December 11, 2020.

At the time rules banned two or more people from different households from meeting indoors, unless “reasonably necessary” for work purposes.

Downing Street today apologised to Buckingham Palace after it was revealed more parties were held in No10 the day before Prince Philip’s funeral last Spring.

Two leaving bashes - one for Mr Johnson’s top spin doctor James Slack and another for the PM’s photographer - took place at Downing Street on April 16.

It was just hours before the Queen sat grieving alone at St George’s Chapel, Windsor.

‘Wine-time Fridays’ were scheduled into the electronic calendars of around 50 No 10 staff between 4pm and 7pm every week.
 
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I think the pertinent point about this is not that parties were held, nor rules broken. It is that they and the BBC were scaring, or trying to, scare the s*** out of us, yet the people attending these events were not at all scared. (Puts tin hat on). Did they perhaps know that it wasn’t as serious as they made out?
 

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I think the pertinent point about this is not that parties were held, nor rules broken. It is that they and the BBC were scaring, or trying to, scare the s*** out of us, yet the people attending these events were not at all scared. (Puts tin hat on). Did they perhaps know that it wasn’t as serious as they made out?
If that is true, it means we were repeatedly lied to when we were told that we must stay at home to protect the NHS and save lives.

If that is not true, it means those attending the party did so in the full knowledge that they were putting the NHS and/or lives at risk, which seems incredibly reckless.

Either way, not a good look.
 

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I think the pertinent point about this is not that parties were held, nor rules broken. It is that they and the BBC were scaring, or trying to, scare the s*** out of us, yet the people attending these events were not at all scared. (Puts tin hat on). Did they perhaps know that it wasn’t as serious as they made out?

one way or another, lies were told. There should be consequences
 
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