Preserved DMU updates

[Alanko]

It's not that maroon is a bad livery, or green for that matter. I just wish railways would show a more diverse range of periods rather than 1957-1963.

I love Crimson and cream. Harder to keep clean but looks great with lined BR Black locos.

But then you have to buy two different types of paint, take longer to apply and the cream shows dirt and corrosion more quickly.


I always assume there is a reason WCR go with maroon drab on the bulk of their stock.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I think the class 150/1s carried it when new.

Ah correct! They did. I never thought it suited the 150s though, they looked smarter in RR.

The 150/1 livery was a bit different- the one on the 142 upthread was known as the Pacer variant of provincial livery.

 

[xotGD]

That’s why I think RR is the most likely. Goes fairly well alongside all the grey diesels and the WYPTE Pacer.

I'm hoping that the 37 gets a coat of blue in the not too distant future. Also, when the 25 returns to service, hopefully that will be blue. A blue bog cart to go alongside (or to get dragged when it fails!) would be good.

 

[Russel]

Surely this is what you meant?

What is?

 

[Iskra]

The Wensleydale 143 is in RR

See post #20

I'm hoping that the 37 gets a coat of blue in the not too distant future. Also, when the 25 returns to service, hopefully that will be blue. A blue bog cart to go alongside (or to get dragged when it fails!) would be good.

The 25 has been blue for ages hasn’t it, so you’d think it would be more likely to emerge green?

 

[m79900]

The Ecclesbourne Valley line has a large fleet of units, but many are either stood down, or loaned out as they seem to be moving towards loco hauled workings. If anyone has connections to the railway, could you please enlighten me as to the future of some of the units?

 

[Russel]

The Ecclesbourne Valley line has a large fleet of units, but many are either stood down, or loaned out as they seem to be moving towards loco hauled workings. If anyone has connections to the railway, could you please enlighten me as to the future of some of the units?

I've noticed this too.

I used to be a regular visitor for the DMU fleet, since they've stopped using them I've not visited.

I'd like to see the 3 car 101 transfer to another line so it sees some actual use.

 

[xotGD]

The 25 has been blue for ages hasn’t it, so you’d think it would be more likely to emerge green?

That's why I'm hoping it comes back out in blue!

The 20 and the 08s ought to be repainted in blue too!

 

[Iskra]

That's why I'm hoping it comes back out in blue!

The 20 and the 08s ought to be repainted in blue too!

There’s a theme developing here

I do think the grey is a bit drab so anything would be better really. Still good loco’s though

 

[The Lad]

I'd like to see the 3 car 101 transfer to another line so it sees some actual use.

Oh yes.

 

[Russel]

Oh yes.

At one point, it seemed to be the Ecclesbournes main workhorse, to see it sat in a siding 99% of the time now is quie sad.

 

[sprinterguy]

Hopefully one or two will make it into GMPTE orange.

LSL's 142003 has been repainted into GMPTE orange, although as far as I know it's yet to venture outside of Eastleigh works.

 

[m79900]

At one point, it seemed to be the Ecclesbournes main workhorse, to see it sat in a siding 99% of the time now is quie sad.

50170 is currently being used to test the Derby Lightweight trailer car, so it hasn't been totally forgotten.

 

[Rikki Lamb]

LSL's 142003 has been repainted into GMPTE orange, although as far as I know it's yet to venture outside of Eastleigh works.

Isn't 141108 at Eastleigh too. Wonder what livery that will receive

 

[D365]

It'd look equally good in Intercity...

Which reminds me that I need to find out if Vintage Trains has any plans for their Class 144s.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Isn't 141108 at Eastleigh too. Wonder what livery that will receive

I'd like to see it in buttermilk & verona green, but it'd look a bit odd with that livery but no pipes visible on the front end!

 

[Neptune]

I'd like to see it in buttermilk & verona green, but it'd look a bit odd with that livery but no pipes visible on the front end!

Could always dummy pipes/boxes.

 

[43096]

Could always dummy pipes/boxes.

You'll then have people complaining it should have Tightlock, not BSI, couplers on the front!

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Could always dummy pipes/boxes.

True. To be honest I've never been able to work out what those pipes were actually for. Possibly multiple working with other 141s, but as I was pretty young when they got refurbished I can't recall ever seeing them paired up and having those pipes/jumpers used for such a purpose. The 141s were a particular oddity before they were refurbished and fitted with BSI couplers, being unable to work with any other types.

 

[fgwrich]

LSL's 142003 has been repainted into GMPTE orange, although as far as I know it's yet to venture outside of Eastleigh works.

Correct, though it has just received new and bespoke CET Tanks. LSL's 007 in RRNW should be getting them fitted next.

142007 Eastleigh Works 11th October 2022

Isn't 141108 at Eastleigh too. Wonder what livery that will receive

No idea, but it's still very much stored undercover in the main shed at the moment. I think most of the attention is currently being shared between LSLs 73 and Pacers there.

 

[Rikki Lamb]

I saw LSL and ETL have put out an announcement that the parts required to return the 89 to operational status have finally been obtained and the loco will be moved shortly Loughborough for the work to be carried out. I believe the plan is to have it working charter trains with their Intercity rake, possibly as soon as next Summer.

True. To be honest I've never been able to work out what those pipes were actually for. Possibly multiple working with other 141s, but as I was pretty young when they got refurbished I can't recall ever seeing them paired up and having those pipes/jumpers used for such a purpose. The 141s were a particular oddity before they were refurbished and fitted with BSI couplers, being unable to work with any other types.

The pipes were to allow the units to be coupled to other pacers and the sprinters IIRC

 

[Neptune]

The pipes were to allow the units to be coupled to other pacers and the sprinters IIRC

No they were air pipes etc. 141’s as built had tight lock couplers and could only work in multiple within class and with the prototype class 140. They only got BSI’s fitted to enable multi working with 14x/15x when refurbished.

You'll then have people complaining it should have Tightlock, not BSI, couplers on the front!

Very true. Those complainers are invariably those who are never prepared to get their hands in their pockets themselves.

 

[Mat17]

I'd love to see a 142 retrofitted with original style doors. I can't imagine any preserved rail would of course given how unreliable the original doors were!

 

[m79900]

I’d love to see a 142 retrofitted with original style doors. I can’t imagine any preserved rail would of course given how unreliable the original doors were!

Or even better, the original Leyland engines!

 

[Rikki Lamb]

No they were air pipes etc. 141’s as built had tight lock couplers and could only work in multiple within class and with the prototype class 140. They only got BSI’s fitted to enable multi working with 14x/15x when refurbished.

Very true. Those complainers are invariably those who are never prepared to get their hands in their pockets themselves.

Thank you for the confirmation, I couldn't remember 100% what they were for.

I'd be glad to see it in any livery but atleast it us looked after. One of the most unpopular classes of DMU conceived but I always liked them.

 

[43055]

The Ecclesbourne Valley line has a large fleet of units, but many are either stood down, or loaned out as they seem to be moving towards loco hauled workings. If anyone has connections to the railway, could you please enlighten me as to the future of some of the units?

W55034 (the ex Chiltern bubble) seems to be the only unit in passenger use at the mo. Next working on the EVR website currently shows 26th July.
Lightweight Iris is at the Great Central
Half of a blue Lightweight is coupled to another half of a unit (as reported above). Believe the other half is in the shed having work done.
Another bubble W55006 is currently being painted.

The mainstay of the services is now the 5 coach set (4 mk1's and LMS coach) and standard 4 80080 or diesel loco. Most weekends there are some sort of food service on the train in the afternoon which can take up to 3 of the coaches.

 

[Mat17]

W55034 (the ex Chiltern bubble) seems to be the only unit in passenger use at the mo. Next working on the EVR website currently shows 26th July.
Lightweight Iris is at the Great Central
Half of a blue Lightweight is coupled to another half of a unit (as reported above). Believe the other half is in the shed having work done.
Another bubble W55006 is currently being painted.

The mainstay of the services is now the 5 coach set (4 mk1's and LMS coach) and standard 4 80080 or diesel loco. Most weekends there are some sort of food service on the train in the afternoon which can take up to 3 of the coaches.

Were they the ones that had a class 119?

 

[m79900]

Were they the ones that had a class 119?

Yes, W51073. Its sat in a siding looking a bit sorry for itself.

W55034 (the ex Chiltern bubble) seems to be the only unit in passenger use at the mo. Next working on the EVR website currently shows 26th July.

Will this be heading back to Loco Services or staying for the time being?

 

[Ewan M]

Anyone hoping to see the three Class 144s with Vintage Trains back on the mainline, sadly that will not be the case. Been reported in this month’s Railway Magazine that 144014 went to R Davies Metals & Sons, Kingswinford for disposal last month and that the other (019 and 020) will be or have followed suit

 

[Iskra]

Anyone hoping to see the three Class 144s with Vintage Trains back on the mainline, sadly that will not be the case. Been reported in this month’s Railway Magazine that 144014 went to R Davies Metals & Sons, Kingswinford for disposal last month and that the other (019 and 020) will be or have followed suit

Any reason?

Not that I’ve any great enthusiasm for Pacer railtours…