Progress on Avanti West Coast's 805/807s Hitachi AT300 sets

[swt_passenger]

I nearly forgot about that Carstairs being remodeled. Can't remember the last time I went to Glasgow/Edinburgh. What's it like passing Carstairs towards Glasgow on Avanti now compared to the previous track layout?

100/110 EPS straight through. Platforms now on loops. There’s a plan here in the remodelling thread:

Carstairs Overhead Line Equipment renewals and upgrade

No, this old line is not being reinstated in any way. I see - in that case, will the new alignment be simply a larger radius curve in the current place?

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I had a quick search for an onboard video, but without success so far.

 

[Rail Quest]

I had a quick search for an onboard video, but without success so far.

I know we're a bit off topic but the recent Ben Elias video showcases it from the cab. Skip to 1:02:56

 

[XCTurbostar]

Are 805/807s likely to visit Liverpool any time soon?

 

[800001]

805011 outside at Newton Aycliffe for the first time today, fresh from test sheds.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Assuming 805005 remains the only one in the vinyls?

 

[800001]

Assuming 805005 remains the only one in the vinyls?

So far yes.

From a source within Avanti, looking at June now for the 805s entry to service.

 

[DJH1971]

So far yes.

From a source within Avanti, looking at June now for the 805s entry to service.

And what about the 807's?

 

[Blindtraveler]

And why such a lengthy delay?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

So far yes.

From a source within Avanti, looking at June now for the 805s entry to service.

Disgraceful.
Thank you for the information, though.

 

[800001]

And what about the 807's?

No idea, still only one unit 807002 that has been seen ah The factory at Newton Aycliffe, and no idea what stage of production is for the others.

And why such a lengthy delay?

Drivers have apparently not started training on them yet, it’s actually train managers who are training at the moment. Unsure who is driving them if Avanti drivers are not.

 

[Carlisle]

. Unsure who is driving them if Avanti drivers are not.

Won’t it be whichever company’s got the contract for the testing process. Like GBRF have for the 701s

 

[Boodiggy]

No idea, still only one unit 807002 that has been seen ah The factory at Newton Aycliffe, and no idea what stage of production is for the others.


Drivers have apparently not started training on them yet, it’s actually train managers who are training at the moment. Unsure who is driving them if Avanti drivers are not.

DTMs driving the AWC one…

 

[800001]

DTMs driving the AWC one…

Makes sense. Thanks

 

[Welshguy1048]

Evening

Class 805 on test along the North Wales Coast tomorrow

Dave

Realtime Trains | 5Q31 0846 Oxley Car. M.D. to Rhyl | 04/12/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q32 1052 Rhyl to Chester | 04/12/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q33 1140 Chester to Llandudno Junction | 04/12/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q34 1237 Llandudno Junction to Chester | 04/12/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q35 1400 Chester to Llandudno Junction | 04/12/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q36 1540 Llandudno Junction to Oxley Car. M.D. | 04/12/2023

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[Jamesrob637]

Evening

Class 805 on test along the North Wales Coast tomorrow

Dave

Realtime Trains | 5Q31 0846 Oxley Car. M.D. to Rhyl | 04/12/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q32 1052 Rhyl to Chester | 04/12/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q33 1140 Chester to Llandudno Junction | 04/12/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q34 1237 Llandudno Junction to Chester | 04/12/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q35 1400 Chester to Llandudno Junction | 04/12/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q36 1540 Llandudno Junction to Oxley Car. M.D. | 04/12/2023

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Nothing ran so far today.

 

[childwallblues]

Noted 805005 heading north at Stafford at lunchtime whilst 805006/07 headed south an hour later.

 

[CHAPS2034]

These workings on Wednesday 13th were by 805. Not sure if it was a singleton or a pair but 007 was noted by someone transiting Stockport on an up train.

Realtime Trains | 5Q64 1651 Crewe to Stockport | 13/12/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q65 1757 Stockport to Oxley Car. M.D. | 13/12/2023

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First time for 805s on the Manchester lines?

 

[800001]

Path is in for an 807, presume 807002 to be hauled (believed to be a 69), from Merchant Park to Oxley on Monday 18th December.

Path below from Real time trains site:-

Realtime Trains | 5Q07 0920 Merchant Park Sidings to Oxley Car. M.D. | 18/12/2023

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[david.stannard]

These workings on Wednesday 13th were by 805. Not sure if it was a singleton or a pair but 007 was noted by someone transiting Stockport on an up train.

Realtime Trains | 5Q64 1651 Crewe to Stockport | 13/12/2023

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Realtime Trains | 5Q65 1757 Stockport to Oxley Car. M.D. | 13/12/2023

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First time for 805s on the Manchester lines?

On Wednesday 13th was indeed operated by 805007 (was also a solo 'white' set the following day, but did not catch the number). From progression through the signalling blocks then possibly both climbed Madeley bank southbound from Crewe in diesel mode (but on the Thursday when passing through Chelford on the Stockport to Crewe section noticed that the rear pantograph well was illuminated, although could not see the actual pantograph). Intriguing.

 

[kbizzle]

Path is in for an 807, presume 807002 to be hauled (believed to be a 69), from Merchant Park to Oxley on Monday 18th December.

Path below from Real time trains site:-

Realtime Trains | 5Q07 0920 Merchant Park Sidings to Oxley Car. M.D. | 18/12/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q07 0920 departure from Merchant Park Sidings to Oxley Car. M.D. on 18/12/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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You are correct

 

[800001]

807002 now due to move Merchant Park to Oxley via Edinburgh and Carlisle tomorrow, 69008 hauling to Darlington, then unit under own power from Darlington.

Path from RTT below:-

Realtime Trains | 5Q91 0823 Merchant Park Sidings to Oxley Car. M.D. | 20/12/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q91 0823 departure from Merchant Park Sidings to Oxley Car. M.D. on 20/12/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[AndrewE]

807002 now due to move Merchant Park to Oxley via Edinburgh and Carlisle tomorrow, 69008 hauling to Darlington, then unit under own power from Darlington.

Path from RTT below:-

Realtime Trains | 5Q91 0823 Merchant Park Sidings to Oxley Car. M.D. | 20/12/2023

Real-time train running information for 5Q91 0823 departure from Merchant Park Sidings to Oxley Car. M.D. on 20/12/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Judging by the way it was gaining on its [timed at] "45mph max" schedule it wasn't hanging around!

 

[Bertie the bus]

I suspect it was timed at 45mph for the drag to Darlington. It certainly wasn't timed for 45 mph for the rest of the journey. Carlisle - Preston is 90 miles (so 2 hours at 45 mph) and it was timed to take 1 hour 41 minutes with a 26 minute stop at Oxenholme (which it skipped).

 

[danbarjon]

Saw it twice today and it looked great it, even better when in Avanti livery.

 

[Jamesrob637]

I suspect it was timed at 45mph for the drag to Darlington. It certainly wasn't timed for 45 mph for the rest of the journey. Carlisle - Preston is 90 miles (so 2 hours at 45 mph) and it was timed to take 1 hour 41 minutes with a 26 minute stop at Oxenholme (which it skipped).

By heck it went a scenic route!

 

[pokemonsuper9]

By heck it went a scenic route!

Better than the other option the lone EMU could've taken, via London
Guess at least it helps it gets some miles in.

Looks like the wait at Oxenholme would've been to let 9M56 1252 Edinburgh to London Euston past, but instead it let it past after Wigan.

 

[danbarjon]

Better than the other option the lone EMU could've taken, via London
Guess at least it helps it gets some miles in.

Looks like the wait at Oxenholme would've been to let 9M56 1252 Edinburgh to London Euston past, but instead it let it past after Wigan.

Yes this is true as I was on this train and the 807 was just lurking in the shadows after Wigan as we passed it.

 

[92002]

Saw it twice today and it looked great it, even better when in Avanti livery.

WESTER HAILES 807002

SHOT AT WESTER HAILES STATION 20/12/2023. DEPICTS THE 5Q91 MERCHANT PARK SDG TO OXLEY CAR MD SERVICE

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[danbarjon]

WESTER HAILES 807002

SHOT AT WESTER HAILES STATION 20/12/2023. DEPICTS THE 5Q91 MERCHANT PARK SDG TO OXLEY CAR MD SERVICE

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Great photo, I like the look of their seating I had a little peak inside when it was sat on Platform 10 at Edinburgh.

 

[dereksingh291]

any idea how many first, standard & standard premium coaches the 805s and 807s will have?