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the website should have an option to filter by unit/allocations, where possible. could this be done?
If by this you mean filter to show only a certain class (e.g. location Plymouth, filter to show only trains allocated as HSTs), then I agree, this would be a fantastic feature!
 

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When a graphic of a particular train is shown with the carriages that make up the train which end of the diagram represents the front of the train?
I assume the front of the train is on the left side? Is that correct ?

For example A--B--C--D--E

A is the first coach & E is the last. Train travelling this way <<<
 

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When a graphic of a particular train is shown with the carriages that make up the train which end of the diagram represents the front of the train?
I assume the front of the train is on the left side? Is that correct ?

For example A--B--C--D--E

A is the first coach & E is the last. Train travelling this way <<<
I think it's been discussed earlier in this thread!
 

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When a graphic of a particular train is shown with the carriages that make up the train which end of the diagram represents the front of the train?
I assume the front of the train is on the left side? Is that correct ?

For example A--B--C--D--E

A is the first coach & E is the last. Train travelling this way <<<
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Yes, here, 158857 is in front, and 158862 is in the back.
 

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I think it's been discussed earlier in this thread!
I did try searching but couldn't find anything

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Yes, here, 158857 is in front, and 158862 is in the back.
Thank you. Helps to know where to wait on the platform if you have a reservation.

May be but the thread is now on Page 54 and the discussion could be anywhere unfortunately.
Agree. I did try earching but no luck
 

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May be but the thread is now on Page 54 and the discussion could be anywhere unfortunately.
Post #1,015 and onwards, for example.
Post #1,018 gives:
Yes, trains are shown directionally (the leftmost carriage being the front one). Obviously there will occasionally be data issues which render this inaccurate.
I was trying to be helpful!
 

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When a graphic of a particular train is shown with the carriages that make up the train which end of the diagram represents the front of the train?
I assume the front of the train is on the left side? Is that correct ?

For example A--B--C--D--E

A is the first coach & E is the last. Train travelling this way <<<
The diagram will (in most cases) show the direction of the train with left being the front. In terms of lettering though it will depend on the orientation of the train. E.g. GWRs IETs Coach A is always at the standard class end of the set.
 

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What happens when the train reverses ? As this one would at Sheffield if continuing to Manchester ?
There are arrows on the left/right to click through the different formations on the journey if recognized with a header to say where from/to. For example on the 0955 Norwich to Liverpool today:

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There are arrows on the left/right to click through the different formations on the journey if recognized with a header to day where from/to. For example on the 0955 Norwich to Liverpool today:

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Really very helpful. I’d love if @Tom could maybe add a simple “FRONT” to one side and “REAR” to the other though, as I don’t always remember which side is which :lol:
 

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Really very helpful. I’d love if @Tom could maybe add a simple “FRONT” to one side and “REAR” to the other though, as I don’t always remember which side is which :lol:

'Coach 1' should always be the leading vehicle although this is not always reflected correctly on RTT where a formation has reversed.
 

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It's mainly GWR I'm talking about though, so I can track which end of a 165 is first on the Portsmouth route, and I'm sure it's letters, and it's definitely not always A leading. Definitely not.
Left hand side is the front.

If the train reverses (at Bristol TM?) there will be multiple formations showing the train for each part of its journey.
 

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It's mainly GWR I'm talking about though, so I can track which end of a 165 is first on the Portsmouth route, and I'm sure it's letters, and it's definitely not always A leading. Definitely not.

I would have thought that would only be accurately possible if RTT showed details of individual vehicle numbers, which is outside of its scope and would be rather specialist, to say the least.
 

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I'm not sure if this has been addressed elsewhere, but why do some units have incorrect information/liveries for instance:
1. Formations are wrong for some reason for TfWs 170s.
2. 156401 and 415 are no longer in these liveries, so why haven't they been updated like 156414 (and other units transferred from EMR)?
3. 170271 and other ex-TfW 170s are not in EMR purple yet (and I don't think they have Wi-Fi (or at least if they do 271's wasn't working when I was on it).
Not getting at anyone, RTT is an invaluable resource, I'm just curious.
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I'm not sure if this has been addressed elsewhere, but why do some units have incorrect information/liveries for instance ... Not getting at anyone, RTT is an invaluable resource, I'm just curious.
On point (1), IIRC that's a defect in the data that's already been acknowledged earlier in the thread.
On points (2) and (3), I'm going to take a guess at "the developers only have so much time in their days and tweaking liveries isn't at the top of their list of priorities".
 

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On points (2) and (3), I'm going to take a guess at "the developers only have so much time in their days and tweaking liveries isn't at the top of their list of priorities".
No sorry, the TfW have been badly wrong for well over a year and the reason given was that they don't have time to search for photos for all the units. That's fair enough, but perhaps consider accepting formal emails from people who can confirm they've seen the trains in the livery, because at worst then that person is mistaken, but that's no worse that it being wrong which it is currently.
 

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There is a livery update for most TOCs scheduled this month. As with most rail related companies in our line of work, we have had a very busy last quarter of the financial year so other priorities have taken hold.
 

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There is a livery update for most TOCs scheduled this month. As with most rail related companies in our line of work, we have had a very busy last quarter of the financial year so other priorities have taken hold.
I’ve noticed inaccuracies in the “pathed as” information, for example 4L92, a solid 66, is “booked” as an “electric locomotive”. Could you sort it out?
 

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I’ve noticed inaccuracies in the “pathed as” information, for example 4L92, a solid 66, is “booked” as an “electric locomotive”. Could you sort it out?
As has been stated again and again and again, this has nothing to do with RTT and everything to do with the data in the railway's own systems being wrong.
 

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