RealTimeTrains website

[Carntyne]

Why would they be against it?

It's a better website and system than their own TOC sites. Offering really useful infomation.

 

[Class 466]

Why would they be against it?

I know one operator that will be against it purely because RTT doesn't use Darwin data

 

[Kite159]

I see Greater Anglia has joined Know Your Train

 

[CarrotPie]

Not according to the KYT operator list though!

 

[RailWonderer]

I see Greater Anglia has joined Know Your Train

Yes, but the fleet is so standardised it’s not such a big event but still nice to have.

 

[Tony2]

I see Greater Anglia has joined Know Your Train

That’s a useful addition.

Also noticed a new panel under the train graphic showing current progress of the train?

• En-route
• Between Harold Wood and Brentwood
• Route set to between Brentwood and Shenfield
• Following 1K28 0955 London Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria

Realtime Trains | 1P18 1000 London Liverpool Street to Norwich | 14/02/2024

Real-time train running information for 1P18 1000 departure from London Liverpool Street to Norwich on 14/02/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[MrJeeves]

Also noticed a new panel under the train graphic showing current progress of the train?

It's not new: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/about/trackyourtrain/

 

[JonathanH]

Yes, but the fleet is so standardised it’s not such a big event but still nice to have.

Depends whether you are trying to chase specific units or not. Absolute game changer for anyone trying to accumulate 720s for haulage.

Also noticed a new panel under the train graphic showing current progress of the train?

• En-route
• Between Harold Wood and Brentwood
• Route set to between Brentwood and Shenfield
• Following 1K28 0955 London Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria

That has been available for some time.

 

[Tony2]

I’ve possibly not noticed it as that feature doesn’t appear on any trains in my local area, is it specific to certain train operating companies?

 

[JonathanH]

I’ve possibly not noticed it as that feature doesn’t appear on any trains in my local area, is it specific to certain train operating companies?

Specific to the routes from Liverpool Street while trains are moving through a defined area I think.

The link above gives details

Supported Operators and Routes

Operator Supported Services

Greater Anglia
London Liverpool Street to Norwich
London Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria

London Overground
London Liverpool Street to Chingford (only)

TfL Rail
London Liverpool Street to Shenfield

This service will support any service operating along the line of route listed above. For example, London Liverpool Street to Norwich includes services from London to Ipswich.

If an operator, route or service is not listed, then we do not currently support it.

 

[Tony2]

Specific to the routes from Liverpool Street while trains are moving through a defined area I think.

Ah, ok thanks for the explanation.

You learn something new about RTT every day!

 

[Tom]

We've got some (fairly slow) plans to roll TYT out to wider areas in its full guise but it is in use in a fair few places under the hood. To pull the data together for TYT is incredibly complex as it uses a lot of fairly impenetrable datasets. You can tell (underlying) TYT areas as you'll also see "Ready to depart" and "Preparing to depart" on terminal stations and platform numbers will confirm as the train gets routed through them.

That'll probably be the focus of our next few months once we've rolled out the next upgrades to the platform - which will add off route capability in a limited way initially and some improvements to how location statuses (arriving/approaching/etc) work under the hood.

On another note, I think I'll be surprised if I see another operator releasing allocations in the future. That's not to say KYT won't expand though...

 

[Peter Mugridge]

That'll probably be the focus of our next few months once we've rolled out the next upgrades to the platform - which will add off route capability in a limited way initially and some improvements to how location statuses (arriving/approaching/etc) work under the hood.

Does that mean that some short notice diversions will show instead of defaulting to "no report" when the train is off the booked route?

That would be very useful.

 

[800Travel]

It's not new: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/about/trackyourtrain/

We've got some (fairly slow) plans to roll TYT out to wider areas in its full guise but it is in use in a fair few places under the hood. To pull the data together for TYT is incredibly complex as it uses a lot of fairly impenetrable datasets. You can tell (underlying) TYT areas as you'll also see "Ready to depart" and "Preparing to depart" on terminal stations and platform numbers will confirm as the train gets routed through them.

That'll probably be the focus of our next few months once we've rolled out the next upgrades to the platform - which will add off route capability in a limited way initially and some improvements to how location statuses (arriving/approaching/etc) work under the hood.

On another note, I think I'll be surprised if I see another operator releasing allocations in the future. That's not to say KYT won't expand though...

This feature looks really cool! Hopefully we can see it come to the East Coast Mainline - especially given the frequency of diversions nowadays.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

Not sure if this is already known but I just noticed that the pantograph is in the wrong spot on 769s on the drawings.
The pantograph is in the middle (either on Coach 2 or 3 nearest the other), either way this is a very minor thing very few would notice (let alone care about), but I wanted to at least make sure it was known.

 

[Halish Railway]

Not sure if this is already known but I just noticed that the pantograph is in the wrong spot on 769s on the drawings.
The pantograph is in the middle (either on Coach 2 or 3 nearest the other), either way this is a very minor thing very few would notice (let alone care about), but I wanted to at least make sure it was known.

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This is an issue with the data RTT is provided with by Northern, where pantograph carriages and DMU driving carriages show up on the know your train feature the wrong way round.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

This is an issue with the data RTT is provided with by Northern, where pantograph carriages and DMU driving carriages show up on the know your train feature the wrong way round.

Yes I had a feeling it might be related to that issue, but hadn't heard of the 769's having the problem.

 

[Intercity_225]

I've just found out RTT has (finally) updated the Intercity 225 diagrams with the correct livery. Not massive news but great to see none the less.

 

[BrettSy96]

I've just found out RTT has (finally) updated the Intercity 225 diagrams with the correct livery. Not massive news but great to see none the less.

They do look good, however I’ve seen that 91119 is in the lner livery on there now too!

 

[60159]

They do look good, however I’ve seen that 91119 is in the lner livery on there now too!

They do look good, however I’ve seen that 91119 is in the lner livery on there now too!

As has been mentioned tens of times in this thread, RTT simply displays the allocation data provided by the operator. It's probably a set swap where the replacement has been added but the original hasn't been removed by whoever input the swap at C2C for whatever reason.

I’m sure this has been mentionedbefore but you have to be careful how you use RTT. I was at Edinburgh Park this morning to see the elusive 334040 and an HST rushed thro’ but no sign on RTT.
I checked Haymarket West Junction where it was shown as a Cadder-Haymarket depot. So tho’ I thought Ed Park would show up on all trains it doesn’t.
This is not a criticism of the excellent RTT who along with this forum, PTS, Freightmaster, Wnnx and others has made a massive difference to me.

 

[CarrotPie]

was at Edinburgh Park this morning to see the elusive 334040

Why is it elusive?

 

[Tom]

This is normal behaviour for a VSTP working: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:53392/2024-03-01/detailed

VSTP schedules aren’t validated are checked for sanity so we don’t even attempt to infill locations into them.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Why is it elusive?

334 040 has just returned to service after some time being unavailable.

 

[60159]

This is normal behaviour for a VSTP working: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:53392/2024-03-01/detailed

VSTP schedules aren’t validated are checked for sanity so we don’t even attempt to infill locations into them.

Thanks.

 

[800Travel]

Hi,

Please may someone tag in the real time trains site admin? I can't remember their username.

Went on the site today, and it said:


[TRANSCRIPT FOR IMAGE: This Connection Is Not Private. This website may be impersonating "www.realtimetrains.co.uk" to steal your personal or financial information. You should go back to the previous page. Go Back. Safari warns you when a website has an expired certificate. This website's certificate expired 1 day ago. This may happen if the website is misconfigured, an attacker has compromised your connection, or your system clock is incorrect. Your system clock is set to Monday, 18 March 2024. If this is not right, fixing the clock may address this warning. To learn more, you can view the certificate. If you understand the risks involved, you can visit this website.]

Similar error on chrome



[TRANSCRIPT FOR IMAGE: Your connection is not private. Attackers might be trying to steal your information from www.realtimetrains.co.uk (for example, passwords, messages or credit cards). Learn more. NET:RR_CERT_DATE_INVALID. To get Chrome's highest level of security, turn on enhanced protection. Advanced. Back to safety]

Seems something needs updating.

Thanks

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Same apparent issue here.

 

[Darandio]

Paging @Tom

 

[swt_passenger]

Paging @Tom

 

[DaventryRabbit]

I've just had this. It directs me to change Date and time on my phone when they are perfectly correct.

 

[htafc]

Working for me on laptop