I have as well, although I haven't gone particularly far. I get the feeling the stay-in-your-local-authority rule is now being ignored on a large scale.Last few weeks noticed more people out and about. Even I have taken the bus and train to go further for walks.
I live very close to two local authorities, easy to cross into the others.I have as well, although I haven't gone particularly far. I get the feeling the stay-in-your-local-authority rule is now being ignored on a large scale.
I'm only about 300m away from a boundary. Living life without crossing it is actually very difficult.I live very close to two local authorities, easy to cross into the others.
A lot of people I know who are generally pretty compliant with the rules couldn't tell you where the local authority boundaries are anyway. I live pretty much in central Edinburgh and if I went out for a walk for an hour or two I could easily end up in East Lothian without really being aware of it.I have as well, although I haven't gone particularly far. I get the feeling the stay-in-your-local-authority rule is now being ignored on a large scale.
That would still be legal as long as you didn’t go too far into East Lothian. You are able to go up to 5 miles over a local authority boundary for exercise.A lot of people I know who are generally pretty compliant with the rules couldn't tell you where the local authority boundaries are anyway. I live pretty much in central Edinburgh and if I went out for a walk for an hour or two I could easily end up in East Lothian without really being aware of it.
Exercise can start and finish at a place in your local authority area (or up to 5 miles from the boundary of your local authority area)
On a train out of Queen St Low Level - it is flipping busy and also really loud with little distancing. Are the govt oblivious to the lack of desire for lockdowns? It’s done? get over it! Also wondering what metrics our good friends at ScotFail are using to put the minimum number of carriages on every train possible - they claim that only 10% of the number of people who usually travel are using trains now - BS!!
Was a Balloch-Airdrie, just a 3 coach 320.From what I've seen, all the trains from Helensburgh to Edinburgh seem to be three car sets, with the Balloch services enjoying a six car. Or was your train going to Milngavie or Springburn?
A lot of people I know who are generally pretty compliant with the rules couldn't tell you where the local authority boundaries are anyway. I live pretty much in central Edinburgh and if I went out for a walk for an hour or two I could easily end up in East Lothian without really being aware of it.
Noticed things getting busier last few weeks, two car 156 on East Kilbride peak service. Police in Glasgow Central, never seen them ask anyone. I think people are starting to make their own minds up.On a train out of Queen St Low Level - it is flipping busy and also really loud with little distancing. Are the govt oblivious to the lack of desire for lockdowns? It’s done? get over it! Also wondering what metrics our good friends at ScotFail are using to put the minimum number of carriages on every train possible - they claim that only 10% of the number of people who usually travel are using trains now - BS!!
Was on a 3 coach 320 from Newton yesterday and there was about 7 or 8 people standing at the doors!On a train out of Queen St Low Level - it is flipping busy and also really loud with little distancing. Are the govt oblivious to the lack of desire for lockdowns? It’s done? get over it! Also wondering what metrics our good friends at ScotFail are using to put the minimum number of carriages on every train possible - they claim that only 10% of the number of people who usually travel are using trains now - BS!!
On a train out of Queen St Low Level - it is flipping busy and also really loud with little distancing. Are the govt oblivious to the lack of desire for lockdowns? It’s done? get over it! Also wondering what metrics our good friends at ScotFail are using to put the minimum number of carriages on every train possible - they claim that only 10% of the number of people who usually travel are using trains now - BS!!
BBC said 15th March so they can canvass for the election?April 5th I believe is the plan for Scotland.
31 days to go...
I'm planning on allowing it (for myself) within a matter of days...It will be interesting to see when the SNP decide its safe enough to allow non essential travel to and from England....
If you've got a source for that, that would be appreciated - I don't think I've seen March 15th quoted anywhere yetBBC said 15th March so they can canvass for the election?
If you've got a source for that, that would be appreciated - I don't think I've seen March 15th quoted anywhere yet
Activists will be allowed to resume leafleting from 15 March if the "stay at home" order has been lifted by then, while face-to-face doorstep campaigning can start from 5 April if the infection rate has fallen low enough.
It will be interesting to see when the SNP decide its safe enough to allow non essential travel to and from England....
Who will police that? There’s nowhere near enough police in Scotland to do that, and the English police have no duty to enforce Scottish law, so I can’t see it happening in practice.If they continue to strive for zero covid, then in theory, never, since the UKG has sensibly decided its a fools game and covid will now always be present.
With Scotland having only one territorial police force, virtually all police officers in Scotland, excluding BTP, MODP and CNC will be available to the Scottish government to enforce restrictions.Who will police that? There’s nowhere near enough police in Scotland to do that, and the English police have no duty to enforce Scottish law, so I can’t see it happening in practice.
I know people who have to cross the border on a daily basis for university, work and caring (both by road and on the 156 from here down to Carlisle), this won’t stop just because of some political stunt by the Scottish nationalists to try and win votes by appealing to the public’s favourable view even though they know fine well it’s a scientific and epidemiological impossibility.
There are plenty of border crossing points (at least over a dozen, I imagine over twenty), so this would not work unless a substantial increase in police numbers took place rather imminently (unlikely). There are also 3 rail routes, served by Scotrail, Northern Avanti, TPE, XC and LNER.With Scotland having only one territorial police force, virtually all police officers in Scotland, excluding BTP, MODP and CNC will be available to the Scottish government to enforce restrictions.
There aren't really that many border crossing points for motorised vehicles.
The really interesting question is what impact the polling over the last 24 hours will have on the Government policy - two polls showing a unionist lead in a referendum question, and one showing a substantial swing for Holyrood.
There are plenty of border crossing points (at least over a dozen, I imagine over twenty), so this would not work unless a substantial increase in police numbers took place rather imminently (unlikely). There are also 3 rail routes, served by Scotrail, Northern Avanti, TPE, XC and LNER.
It might not be sensible, but it is certainly feasible.In theory yes, it might work to reduce transmission, but in practice it’s not at all feasible or sensible.
I make 33 crossing points, including two by rail. It's late and I might have missed some tracks in the mountainous interior.
Obviously the trains would either be ordered stopped outright or all ordered to stop at the first station in Scotland, where the train would be cleared and the passengers inspected.
Rule of thumb is six staff for one 24 hour covered position, so two officers at each border crossing 24 hours a day would only require 396 personnel.
Police Scotland has 17,259 sworn constables on strength.
It's well within their capability.
It might not be sensible, but it is certainly feasible.
I make 33 crossing points, including two by rail. It's late and I might have missed some tracks in the mountainous interior.
Obviously the trains would either be ordered stopped outright or all ordered to stop at the first station in Scotland, where the train would be cleared and the passengers inspected.
Rule of thumb is six staff for one 24 hour covered position, so two officers at each border crossing 24 hours a day would only require 396 personnel.
Police Scotland has 17,259 sworn constables on strength.
It's well within their capability.
It might not be sensible, but it is certainly feasible.
I know people are just buying a ticket from last station to Glasgow Central to get through barriers. I seen someone ask for a High St to Queen St at the barrier few months ago and the gateline guy was having none of it.Are they using numbers based on ticket sales?
After-all assuming Scotrail staff are still carrying out no revenue checks, there must be a fair few travellers who have gotten used to only buying tickets when they are using a station with barriers as they think they won't get caught out
I make 33 crossing points, including two by rail. It's late and I might have missed some tracks in the mountainous interior.
Obviously the trains would either be ordered stopped outright or all ordered to stop at the first station in Scotland, where the train would be cleared and the passengers inspected.
Rule of thumb is six staff for one 24 hour covered position, so two officers at each border crossing 24 hours a day would only require 396 personnel.
Police Scotland has 17,259 sworn constables on strength.
It's well within their capability.
It might not be sensible, but it is certainly feasible.
Have you taken into account rest days or even rest breaks for officers?
Given that in England we shall be allowed to meet up with 1 friend outdoors from tomorrow, it should be permitted to travel anywhere just for the day to meet our friend. Hopefully no police would ask us who our friend at our destination is.I'm planning on allowing it (for myself) within a matter of days...