I haven't managed to check whether it's in Clapham Yard.Where it was stored 46 road I think.No problem at all, pleasure to make it. I’ll update it weekly if there are regular changes to the fleet.
Is 458535 back in service then? Also, other than stopped 507/517/534 I have 504 as the only not operational 458 (long term OOU) - does this remain the case?
I can confirm that 458535 is still sat in the same place in Clapham Yard.
Thank you. The list has been updated to address the long term OOU 458s. (And the addition of 707001/029 going to SE)
I believe the Southern 455s are very different now, they have diverged during upgrades etc. So effectively a different class.
The Southern 455s are not a patch on SWR's fleet imo, definitely not helped by the remodelled front ends, but I'm sure that's a debate that's happened many times before!
The cheapest and quickest solution is to do the necessary work on the units that are out of service.
Well I had a word with the shunter today, and he said the unit hasn't moved in 5 months and things are looking very bleak for it…
8535 is waiting some parts that can't be delivered until mid-December, nothing bleak about it at all. No point skating down for it not to be repaired and block up the depot and then have to re-skate it to move it around the depot, a waste of money. The first chance it can be skated from Clapham straight onto the bogie drop, I would expect they would get all the work done on it.
The ROSCO is not the only parts owner. Unipart Rail owns a lot of the ex-BREL fleet material. TOCs can call off stock from other depots. For example a part for a 158 is needed at Salisbury. Another TOC has one on the shelf. Unipart buy it back and sell it to the TOC that needs it. The displaced item then goes back for repair and if the first TOC has an open order, they will receive it once repaired.
No, they will move to Long Marston early December, and then on to Widnes for refurbishment.
I was only going on information I received,which seems Incorrect.Good to hear the unit will be back in service.
This is because of Twickenham matches taking place. They post about it on their website and social media and have lots of announcements playing at stations
It's really a poor state of affairs. There are 13 units sitting in depots out of miles, and the railway in general is putting its fingers in its ears and shouting lalala. If this is directly caused by the late delivery if the 701s, surely Bombardier should be paying for the overhauls of the 455s and 456s. If the delays to the 701s are caused by SWR (a debate on this is for elsewhere) then SWR should be paying for overhauls. One thing is for certain-- somebody should be paying. Doing nothing is unacceptable.
March next year apparently…
Given the reductions on the main line service groups though there must be some spare 450's that can be redeployed onto the Windsor side?
I'm told that's plan, with more 450s on the Reading line.
You have to remember that the DfT is calling the shots, hence the complete mess.
The pandemic is being used as a convenient excuse to cut standards everywhere.
Not in the short-term as far as l know. Some could perhaps be freed up in the medium term if some 350/2s were retained for a while longer.
And I think Alstom would have a fair case for contending that it's not their problem, rather it's an industrial relations problem at SWR.
None of this makes much sense. Were the 465/2 due for overhaul? Seems unlikely that the last few all ran out of miles over the same weekend.
The Tory party may just find the Blue Wall crumbling massively if they are dumb enough to think that the South will pay through the nose and get nothing.
You are, of course, assuming that the 465s in store are fit to continue running. There are reports that they are In a bad way.
The B-word is a bad word
Subleased. All of the 707 fleet is now leased to South Eastern under whatever name they are this week, and subleased back to SWR.
