Transport for Wales 769's

[PHILIPE]

Not ideal during a pandemic.

During the pandemic TFW guards are staying in the rear cabs and not carrying out ticket checks.

Rumour mill locally is that 1or maybe 2 class 769s will be entering public service next week. Chsnges been made to the timetable with some of the Rhymney to Bridgend services split at Cardiff central.

The other 2 769s will continue to be used for testing and staff training

These are potential 769 services from next week:-

0714 Rhymney to Cardiff Central
ECS to Canton

ECS ex Canton
0936 Cardiff Central to Rhymney
1114 Rhymney to Cardiff Central
1236 Cardiff Central to Rhymney and ECS Sidings.

The Bridgend portions start/terminate Cardiff Central and will be on/off Canton.

 

[Wolfie]

During the pandemic TFW guards are staying in the rear cabs and not carrying out ticket checks.

I know. I just don't see how door panels in the saloon are compatible.

 

[NoMorePacers]

TfW seem to have emulated Northern's modifications to their 319s from the looks of things then (removing the cab door controls).

 

[AdamWW]

I know. I just don't see how door panels in the saloon are compatible.

They are presumably about as compatible as the ones on TFW Pacers and 153s in the passenger saloons.

The difference presumably is that as the passengers doors aren't at the ends of the carriages on a 769 they'll have to cordon off part of the seating area as well as just taking a set of doors out of passenger use and cordoning off the door area.

As for not needing 4 coaches...maybe not but they certainly have been running 4 coach trains on the Rhymney line rather than just 2 coach 150s.

 

[Bikeman78]

They are presumably about as compatible as the ones on TFW Pacers and 153s in the passenger saloons.

The difference presumably is that as the passengers doors aren't at the ends of the carriages on a 769 they'll have to cordon off part of the seating area as well as just taking a set of doors out of passenger use and cordoning off the door area.

As for not needing 4 coaches...maybe not but they certainly have been running 4 coach trains on the Rhymney line rather than just 2 coach 150s.

Aside from Radyr to Coryton, almost every train on the valleys is booked four cars, i.e. Pacer+150 or Pacer+153+153.

 

[PHILIPE]

Aside from Radyr to Coryton, almost every train on the valleys is booked four cars, i.e. Pacer+150 or Pacer+153+153.

I've noticed a reduction to 3 Cars on most of the Rhymney Valley lately, the Caerphilly Bay shuttle and some Rhymney Bridgends running as Pacer + 1 x 153 and one circuit as 3 x 153s

 

[konstant]

Tomorrow:

0714 769002 Rhymney to Central.

0936 769002 Central to Rhymney.

Bit confused about discussion above but all saloon doors on a 769 have a guards panel, the cab panel is defunct, and a 319/769 can only function as a 4/8/12 car set. No coach is expendable due to equipment layout. A section of the saloon at both ends has been reserved for guards when in operation.

07+14 delayed due to signal failure on the valleys route. Will still run.

 

[6Gtraincrew]

002's workload for today. First run leaving late though, no idea why.

 

[samuelmorris]

002's workload for today. First run leaving late though, no idea why.

See above edit, doesn't look like we can blame the unit for that one. So does this mark, with minimal fanfare, TfW being first to successfully deploy 769s?

 

[konstant]

it’s running with a MOM acting as pilot due to infrastructure failure.

First 769 running in anger.

 

[samuelmorris]

MOM?

 

[adc82140]

MOM?

It's bring your parents to work day

More seriously, MOM I think stands for Mobile Operations Manager. Am I correct?

 

[PHILIPE]

It's bring your parents to work day

More seriously, MOM I think stands for Mobile Operations Manager. Am I correct?

You are. Info says signalling problems

 

[sftfan1909]

It has worked to Cardiff and back to Rhymney but is being swapped out from the 1114 back south.

 

[Robert Ap Ioan]

I caught the service to Rhymney. Compared to the Pacers it felt luxurious. The rattling and vibration leaving stations wasn't the best.

 

[AdamWW]

I caught the service to Rhymney. Compared to the Pacers it felt luxurious. The rattling and vibration leaving stations wasn't the best.

I would imagine that the internal environment depends quite a bit on which coach you're in.

 

[Robert Ap Ioan]

I was in one of the non-engine coaches. Once it was up to speed, it was very quiet.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I caught the service to Rhymney. Compared to the Pacers it felt luxurious. The rattling and vibration leaving stations wasn't the best.

I'd expect it to feel like a Class 150 given that it basically, er, is?

 

[AdamWW]

I'd expect it to feel like a Class 150 given that it basically, er, is?

It is unusual to be able to travel in a non-engine coach on a 150.

 

[anthony263]

Personally we should be impressed a 769 has actually carried passengers in service.

Shame it was let down by signal problems

 

[Cardiff123]

It has worked to Cardiff and back to Rhymney but is being swapped out from the 1114 back south.

So only two 769 passenger runs today rather than the planned four? Or was 002 sawpped for a different 769 unit?

 

[Jamesrob637]

26 late off Rhymney, 22 late into Cardiff Central and was closer to 30 late at some intermediate stations. Would a bona fide diesel have managed to make up anything given the frequent stops? I don't know the line at all.

 

[PHILIPE]

So only two 769 passenger runs today rather than the planned four? Or was 002 sawpped for a different 769 unit?

Swapped for 3x153s

 

[AM9]

I'd expect it to feel like a Class 150 given that it basically, er, is?

Well, the body shells are basically the same but all of that hanging below the floor isn't.

 

[norbitonflyer]

It is unusual to be able to travel in a non-engine coach on a 150.

My first ride in a 150 was a non-powered coach. The prototype 150 on the Matlock branch, with the engine in the leading car not working!

 

[sftfan1909]

I thought it was better than a 150, they don't feel the same. It certainly felt a lot nicer to ride.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

it’s running with a MOM acting as pilot due to infrastructure failure.

First 769 running in anger.

Was it 769 008 instead of 769 002? Or did someone on Twitter post a wrong photo?

 

[PHILIPE]

Was it 769 008 instead of 769 002? Or did someone on Twitter post a wrong photo?

769002. Photographic evidence

 

[Peter Mugridge]

769002. Photographic evidence

Thank you.

 

[Bob Price]

Photo from Dai Lygad on Twitter

https://twitter.com/Dai_Lygad/status/1328279068903698432?s=19