I often see this on Northern, especially on Sprinters. Part of the problem seems to be that there is often no suitable grab rails etc apart from those on the seats or the overhead luggage racks. Have seen people loose their balance many times with nowhere to hang on to.
The JLE has a particular problem that, starting from Stratford, the first three stations all have their platform entrances at the north end. Underground designers a century ago were pretty good at varying entrance points to overcome this, but in the era when expensive architectural practices are more concerned with winning design awards than delivering something operationally practical, that sort of thing has been lost.
Same approach on the Elizabeth. It just doesn't work because the same floorspace that is meant to accommodate several hundred people standing is the floorspace separately described to allow moving along the train - but you can't because of all the standees. When there is clear space to do so is just when you don't need to because there are seats available.
Although the Jubilee line is likely to be one of the last to receive new trains, the JLE would really benefit from the walk-through design of the NTFL. I would however challenge the assertion that the practicality of design at Stratford has suffered because the designers were more concerned with "winning design awards". Shoehorning a tube terminus into Stratford (without burying the line from Stratford Market) leaves little choice other than than what has actually been done.
From Glasgow Queen St and if the service calls at Croy, the front of the train will gain many passengers at peak as at Croy passengers will often wait near the roadbridge.
That may be true in general terms but the problem at the eastern end of the Jubilee line is that the fiirst three stations all access trains from their northern ends. As the exits along the line are reasonably distributed along the length of trains of the JLE, (North Woolwich and Canary Wharf each have good distributed access using mezzanine floors), those passengers boarding at Stratford and Canning Town can walk through as the train fills rather than jumping into the first door for fear of them closing and leaving them on the platform.
I don't think it's that given that, unless someone is right next to a pole, those in the doorways don't have anything to hang onto either. The handle spaces on the seats are perfectly fine for holding onto. The real reason seems to be simply laziness and being inconsiderate.
No, they are barely adequate and only if you don't have balance issues. It is far more secure to wrap your fingers around a pole than trying to clasp a solid object. With some trains feeling like being in a moderate to strong earthquake when standing I have to be tactical with my stance when holding onto one of those seat handholds so I can resist the shaking. There is often more to get hold of around the doorways.
The hip level stubs as fitted to 80x and 345s are pretty useless for holding onto, whereas, the dual grip handles on the Desiro Citys and Electrostars are a lot more effective, especially considering that two different passengers can use one handle at the same time.
The announcement that "We will shortly be arriving at Blemkinshaw station" is often made ten minutes before you arrive at the station
Although on the Bakerloo line, if heading towards Harrow & Wealdstone, the end carriage is often the most crowded. I think passengers changing off the Jubilee at Baker Street walk through the connecting passage and are adjacent to the tail-end of the train. Convenient also for the staircases at Queens Park and Willesden Junction if you’re in the rear carriage.
When you know about the ‘optimum carriage behaviour’, it can be useful in getting a seat when trying to board a busy service.
I once leant forward to grasp a handle on top of a chair, and caught hold of a woman's hair which had become draped around the handle (it was tied up in a loose knot and flowed downwards). I immediately let go and apologised, but it gave her a right shock. Since then, I look carefully at the handle to avoid doing the same thing again.
I have done that many times on the tube. Left a jam-packed carriage and sprinted down the platform to hop into a less crowded one.
Yes it's annoying sometimes when the info is wrong.
Well on the packed train to Woking, every seat in the packed carriages was taken.
Having luggage is a valid, rational reason for choosing a longer unbroken journey over a shorter one with changes.
In fairness, a bay of six facing seats is very cosy indeed if all are taken, I strongly suspect the vast majority of people would find it uncomfortable both in terms of physical space and the degree of forced intimacy with fellow passengers!
As others have said, it so often gets few if any takers, people stand where they land. Suits me, I'm happy in my country (end) club, well worth paying for the P&Q with a little extra walking at each end of the journey.
