Liam L
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Two 196s out in revenue today
196108 & 196110.
196108 & 196110.
What diagrams are they on?Two 196s out in revenue today
196108 & 196110.
What diagrams are they on?
Apologies, trying to catch up,
Is it just 3 Class 196's in passenger service thus far?
Reading the thread I've got...
196101: 17/10/22 1G05 06:51 SHR-BHM
196108: 06/11/22 2G18 16:47 SHR-BHM
196110: 01/11/22 1G05 06:51 SHR-BHM.
Is that correct, any to add/correct?
Thanks Liam.That’s correct
101 has worked the most services so far. I believe today was 108s first day in revenue. 110 started on Monday.
I assume this is now becoming a steady increase in usage as drivers complete training ?.According to the excellent Part Time Spotter Team website there are three Class 196s in service today!
196101, 196108 & 196110.
Class 196 Allocations 08/11/2022
.. Disclaimer. Allocated at 07:45 196101 Location Mileage Arr Dep WTT ID Position / others Tyseley LMD 07:34 5J06 1 Birmingham N St 4 07:50 08:00 2J06 1 Wolverhampton 17 08:18 08:18 2J06 1 Wellingt…partimespotter.wordpress.com
I assume this is now becoming a steady increase in usage as drivers complete training ?.
I believe there’s one or two out on Saturdays and Sundays now, as there’s one all-day diagram now in the hands of the 196s.Does anyone know if there are any out on Saturday and/or Sunday? I might go and try one.
What will they do between then and April then? Just run them on the Shrewsbury line and iron out any problems?I think it’s a new diagram added every few weeks, the Shrewsbury line should be fully 196 operational by the end of the year
I expect so, along with intensive driver training for Worcester, which is I believe already started!What will they do between then and April then? Just run them on the Shrewsbury line and iron out any problems?
Will that take 3 months though, especially if it's already started?I expect so, along with intensive driver training for Worcester, which is I believe already started!
I've no idea how many drivers require training tbh, so I don't have an answer to that.Either way
Will that take 3 months though, especially if it's already started?
If referring to Worcester 70+ initially. When all outstanding training is done with new drivers it will be 90+. First one in service from Worcester in March with hopefully 20 + mainline drivers done, starting in Jan. Between now & then it’s shed drivers,instructors & driver managers being trained.I've no idea how many drivers require training tbh, so I don't have an answer to that.
501-502, 504-510, 512-514, 516-517, 533, 535I saw driver training on the snow hill lines a fortnight ago using 196102, it was on approach to Stourbridge junction.
Does anybody know the numbers of the remaining WMR 170's?
This has come up many times before I know, but I want to get the most up-to-date information:
What are the 196 diagrams for tomorrow and Saturday? Thanks.
1G14 Shown as caped on RTT @ OF 09-00 Train Crew issuesToday is the usual diagrams
2G51/2J04/1G10 - 196110
2G02/2J05/2G09/2J10/2G15/2J16/2G21/2J22/1G53/1J68/2G31/2J3/
2G35 - 196101
1G05/2J06/1G14 - 196102
(Nothing confirmed for Saturday yet)
(Nothing confirmed for Saturday yet)
1G14 Shown as caped on RTT @ OF 09-00 Train Crew issues
Is Sunday to be the same as last week or was that a 170 stand in?Today is the usual diagrams
2G51/2J04/1G10 - 196110
2G02/2J05/2G09/2J10/2G15/2J16/2G21/2J22/1G53/1J68/2G31/2J3/
2G35 - 196101
1G05/2J06/1G14 - 196102
(Nothing confirmed for Saturday yet)
If you do find out I'd really appreciate finding out, as I'd like to go and find one tomorrow (or if not then Sunday) but not have a wasted trip!
Thanks for posting these updates.
Had my first 196 experience (110, Telford to Birmingham) last weekend. The seats are truly awful. Vastly inferior even to a 700 or 350/2.The 172 interior is more basic and a 2+3 configuration in most carriages, the 196's use the same seats as the FLIRTS, other than that they are the same.
They'll be coming to a station rather closer to you soon enough...
Based on my admittedly limited experience thus far l'm going to miss the vastly superior 170s.I think it’s a new diagram added every few weeks, the Shrewsbury line should be fully 196 operational by the end of the year
What makes them so awful?Had my first 196 experience (110, Telford to Birmingham) last weekend. The seats are truly awful. Vastly inferior even to a 700 or 350/2.