Bearing in mind this is the route more than any other where you can find yourself with a very hefty bill for accidentally getting on the wrong company's train it is not exactly passenger friendly to have a similar colour livery to the other operator.
Then again this is First, it is probably in their business plan to cause such confusion and rake in the resulting on-board premium fares.
Other than that, they are also causing pointless confusion with the branding of LNER's trains and as for the livery....I will just say these things are subjective and that triangle is dreadful.
Two.
Great Western Railway
South Western Railway being shorter, modern version for London South Western Railway
I think one colour in common does not make them the same livery. Not even similar. But this green, grey and orange is confusingly similar to A WC:The TER and Intercités liveries are both heavily based on grey. There’s no need to discuss that, have a look at my location on my profile.
I think one colour in common does not make them the same livery. Not even similar. But this green, grey and orange is confusingly similar to A WC:
And the only orange on this is a triangle up one end and triangles on the cantrail stripe:The only orange on that is the cantrail stripe which is on every train on the network.
I think it will look more orange in real life, to be honest. There are 'accent' splodges in orange, and the logo in orange, repeated along the length of the train. I really can't see anyone getting mixed up between these and an LNR 350 other than through their own negligence.And the only orange on this is a triangle up one end and triangles on the cantrail stripe:
221110 and 221112 now without vinyls
I agree with you, but I think in the flesh the two liveries will look quite different.I think one colour in common does not make them the same livery. Not even similar. But this green, grey and orange is confusingly similar to A WC:
The only orange on that is the cantrail stripe which is on every train on the network.
Do these run under overhead wires?Class 444, 450 and 458 don't have cantrail stripes (or at least didn't in SWT livery, I've not used them since it became SWR)
No but they are still a "train on the network". More importantly, does it matter why orange is there? It is still orange on the train and most passengers won't know it is a cantrail stripe.Do these run under overhead wires?
Do these run under overhead wires?
Ah well, part uniform has arrived for now, maybe slightly different in the future.
The TOC emblems...Obviously, coat/polo shirt.
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Just don't get the A triangle.
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Ah well, part uniform has arrived for now, maybe slightly different in the future.
The TOC emblems...Obviously, coat/polo shirt.
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Just don't get the A triangle.
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They still didn’t get cantrail warning stripes added. I remember someone asking if they needed the stripes for Reading, but of course they’re on separated tracks there as well.Yes. Class 458 were rebuilt/refurbished at Doncaster, for example.
That triangle is there for staff to find x when they have a bit of free time.
the A triangle looks awful
Even the Illuminati triangle ?I have never seen so much angst about a triangle. It's hilarious.
If it's an internal communication then keep it internal!
Agreed.To be fair, it's not showing anything that isn't already in the public domain and neither is it showing any sensitive information....