Xenophon PCDGS
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The F A are due to confirm how the four-week lockdown will affect the non-elite clubs later today.
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Xenophon PCDGS
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Pitching In Northern Premier League...Premier Division
Hyde United 1 ... Lancaster City 1
Both goals came in the first seven minutes of the match. Hyde have now drawn all three of their home league games this season.
Hyde United 1 ... Lancaster City 1
Both goals came in the first seven minutes of the match. Hyde have now drawn all three of their home league games this season.
Peregrine 4903
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Surely Firmino has to be dropped now. His goalscoring record has never been impressive, but now he also keeps on giving the ball away and his passing has become poor.
Although as an Arsenal fan I hope he keeps starting
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backontrack
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It's a dip in form. These things aren't terminal. As an Arsenal fan, you might want to recall Aubameyang going through a similar thing recently, but Arteta put his faith in him, and he picked up.Surely Firmino has to be dropped now. His goalscoring record has never been impressive, but now he also keeps on giving the ball away and his passing has become poor.
Although as an Arsenal fan I hope he keeps starting
Peregrine 4903
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True, but Firmino is getting older, and his dip in form has been going on since the start of 2020, whereas Aubameyang's lasted 5 games at most. I'm not saying Firmino is finished but his dip in form has been quietly going on for quite a while and has been covered because he has such a good team around him and until Jota came no replacement, whereas when Aubameyang's form dipped its more noticeable as we rely on him so much.
backontrack
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Aubameyang's a few years older than Firmino.
Peregrine 4903
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Exactly, which makes Firmino's long drop off in form worse. I'm not saying hes become a bad player, but I feel like if I were a Liverpool fan I'd want Jota to be starting over him at the minute.
On another note Bayern Munich are so scary, beat RB Salzburg 6-2 despite not even playing that well. I've never seen a team as clinical as this current Bayern Munich in my 8 years of watching football.
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In a nutshell, "non-elite" football is binned between 5th November and 2nd December. Includes both matches and training.
Firmino's ongoing spell of poor form is a concern, and I genuinely think he needs to spend some time on the bench. Trying to play him into form hasn't worked.
I really like Firmino, but based on current form, I'd start Jota every time. In fact, I'll be very disappointed if Jota doesn't start our league game on Sunday after he's just scored a hattrick in the Champions League.
Xenophon PCDGS
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Could this also apply to Pogba at Manchester United?
Butts
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Why did Wolves let Jota go ?
It’s hard to imagine two more different players. Firmino is a grafter, working for the team, running his proverbial soft, tracking back, happy to let others take the glory. Pogba on the other hand seems to me to be a human embodiment of everything that’s wrong with the premier league. And from a playing point of view, it looks to me as if Pogba is a very good player when he plays alongside great players, but he isn’t when he’s expected to be the main man. At Juve he had Pirlo next to him. For a France he has Kante doing the work of the pair of them
I can imagine a number of reasons. He signed for Wolves in 2018 so I’d imagine his contract only had one or two years left, and if his agent has made it clear he wouldn’t be signing a new one then they were right to cash in
Secondly, the manager has repeatedly spoken of Podence’s potential, so maybe they think that’s the better overall plan.
And thirdly, the unavoidable fact is that at least 14 premier league teams are essentially selling teams who need to bring money in when they can. Madness, but that’s how it is
Xenophon PCDGS
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In one of the groups in the Champions League, there will be managers of both PSG and Manchester United who will now realise that away Champions League games are not easy fixtures. PSG in particular, with supposedly a whole host of top-rated players, have now lost two of their first three group matches.
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And as regards Manchester United's 2-1 defeat in Istanbul last night, a "loss for us" in the Bosphorus?!
I expect they wanted the money, to be honest.
Even at the price we paid, Jota's going to be a bargain that's for sure. If he's this good now, then I can only imagine how good he'll be when he gets to Salah and Mané's age.
DarloRich
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Swindon Town 1 v Darlington 2.
Second round of the FA cup baby!
Second round of the FA cup baby!
TheGrandWazoo
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All is good in the world
DarloRich
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Bristol Rovers away for Darlo in the FA cup second round. A poor draw sadly but we have already turned over one poor league one side so bring it on. Magic of the FA cup (TM) and all that.
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Chorley draw Peterborough in FA Cup
Non-league Chorley are drawn at League One leaders Peterborough United in the second round of the FA Cup.
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Xenophon PCDGS
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Bristol Rovers away for Darlo in the FA cup second round. A poor draw sadly but we have already turned over one poor league one side so bring it on. Magic of the FA cup (TM) and all that.
Chorley draw Peterborough in FA Cup
Non-league Chorley are drawn at League One leaders Peterborough United in the second round of the FA Cup.
As one who has followed your Darlo postings over the years on this thread (remembering the Hyde United v Darlington matches when they were once in the same division), I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate your team on their current F A Cup run.
DarloRich
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thanks - The only downside is that the current COVID restrictions are limiting the financial rewards which is the main benefit of a good cup run for a team at our level. We really needed a TV tie but I don't think we got one.
Patrick Bamford had a goal ruled out for offside by VAR in Leeds’ defeat to Crystal Palace on last Saturday. The ball struck his outstretched arm. What's going on? You can't score with your arm. Surely it's the feet which should determine offside!
So. Any part of your body with which you can score a goal can be offside. The interpretation of the law was changed earlier this season, so that handball is from the “tshirt line” (ie the bottom of the sleeve of the players shirt basically) rather than the armpit, because last season there was controversy about where exactly the armpit began and ended.
Bamford was pointing where he wanted the ball to go, and as he was doing this just as the pass was played it meant his upper arm - with which he can now legally score a goal - was offside.
So VAR has got it right. Whether the law is right is another question entirely
DarloRich
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The game between Darlington and Boston was abandoned yesterday evening after around 86 minutes due to an injury to Darlington player Nicky Hunt with the visitors leading 2-0. The league will have to determine the outcome of the game but it seems sensible to award the 3 points to the Pilgrims..
Hunt was injured in a challenge with a challenge with an attacker, was knocked unconscious and suffered a suspected neck injury.He was treated on the pitch for more than an hour for the injury before being taken to hospital by ambulance at 23:00
Very happily he was released form hospital early this morning following a scan on his head and neck and has been given the all has been given the all-clear.
Hunt was injured in a challenge with a challenge with an attacker, was knocked unconscious and suffered a suspected neck injury.He was treated on the pitch for more than an hour for the injury before being taken to hospital by ambulance at 23:00
Very happily he was released form hospital early this morning following a scan on his head and neck and has been given the all has been given the all-clear.
Nicky Hunt update - News
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Correct. His upper arm - basically the bit underneath a short sleeved shirt - was in front of the last defender. Because that’s a part of the body that a player can now score a goal with, it was offside
Bad law correctly applied
scotrail158713
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I don’t think there’s been many VAR offside decisions that, by the letter of the Law, are incorrect. As frustrating as whatever the minimal margin may be, it is a black and white law, so offside is offside.
Exactly. Offside is a line decision. Yes or no. On or off. It drives me insane when pundits say “ah but the lines are so close, we should have a 5cm allowance”. All that does is move the line, and all hell kicks off when someone is offside by 5.01cm
There is a valid question about the fact that the images produced by the cameras are however many frames per second, so the exact moment the ball is kicked may not be captured. And indeed what actually is the point of kicking the ball, given the initial contact marginally compresses the ball without moving it. But that really is semantics, and of course it’s the same for both teams
What is maddening with VAR is the subjective stuff. Nobody who has ever played football would agree that Leicester’s first penalty on Sunday was handball. The whole handball law has become so contradictory that whilst the law says it isn’t handball if a player’s arm is in a natural position, defenders are trying to close down attackers whilst hiding their arms behind their backs, which is as unnatural as it gets
My other big issue with VAR is that it’s being operated by current premier league referees, and I think it’s inevitable that they try and overturn as few decisions as possible * because they don’t want to undermine the on field ref, knowing that next week it could be them. It’s an ideal job for retired refs.
* obviously this excludes Mike Dean, who even as VAR will make it all about him
scotrail158713
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This precisely. It’s crazy the amount of times I’ve had to try and explain this concept to people.
These people don’t have an issue with the law IMO, it’s that they want VAR to get it right, until a marginal call may go against their team.
This I also completely agree with - as a ref myself I’m getting more confused by the week as to what constitutes handball.
I’ve mentioned it before, but this referee forum, and the ‘As Seen on TV’ sub-forum on it, is fascinating reading. It’s various levels of referees across the world discussing various incidents from games.
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