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Also hauled by the very famous 37884.
Cerberus the grim reaper strikes yet again.
Cerberus the grim reaper strikes yet again.
Good question.I unfortunately missed that one. Are all units from Doncaster heading to Newport?
See message #709 for those that remain, less 365508 as dispatched aboveWould anyone be as kind as to give a list simply detailing which have been scrapped and which remain? I’m not after dates or locations; I’m just curious to know which remain.
Thanks muchSee message #709 for those that remain, less 365508 as dispatched above
Guessing this is 529?
Good afternoon and happy xmas everyone it was with 37800 taking 365529 through alsager 12 minutes early.Guessing this is 529?
You make the 365s sound like sentient beingsGood afternoon and happy xmas everyone it was with 37800 taking 365529 through alsager 12 minutes early.
Sad to see still happy with its smile.
Unaware off the new year 2022 will bring it .
I will miss them.You make the 365s sound like sentient beings
Agree. An unfortunate combination of circumstances as described upthread.I will miss them.
Sad to see them go . Pity to see them go for scrap.
It depends if 525 will be operated at all. But for context, ETCS is currently being fitted to the Moorgate branch and will work its way up from there.Hi. About 365525. Will it operate on all parts of the ECML?
Will it be fitted with third rail gear, or be restricted as far as Drayton Park?Agree. An unfortunate combination of circumstances as described upthread.
It depends if 525 will be operated at all. But for context, ETCS is currently being fitted to the Moorgate branch and will work its way up from there.
I thought the 365s cannot be fitted with contact shoes.Will it be fitted with third rail gear, or be restricted as far as Drayton Park?
I thought the 365s cannot be fitted with contact shoes.
If it was just shoe gear that was the problem, they might have found more use. It seems unlikely that 365525 needs to go south of Drayton Park.New shoe gear can be made to replace the gear that got lost years ago.
All DC current collection equipment (shoe beams, cables, arc shields, fuse boxes etc) were removed during conversion at Doncaster works. One set were retained by Bombardier for possible pattern use at some point in the future but they were lost at Crewe works during the closure. The rest went in the skip. This was done as it was recognised at the time that the odds of 365's ever going back to DC operation were extremely long.
If it was just shoe gear that was the problem, they might have found more use.
https://railforums.co.uk/threads/go...of-class-365-fleet.189660/page-2#post-4173799
My understanding is that it was related to how the fleet was originally financed by BR - the odd numbers were financed differently to the even numbers.Is there a reason why all the odd number units were withdrawn before the even number units?
Anything’s possible with enough money!I think its highly unlikely its going to get its 3rd gear refitted just saying it is possible.
Hopefully it will be completed by next year. Unit 525 has already been fitted with the equipment. Also not all is lost if will be kept for departmental use then.ETCS is currently being fitted to the Moorgate branch and will work its way up from there.
Yes other than departmental use I cannot see why one standalone 365 would find an operating future. While scrapping it like the rest wouldn't surprise me, this would highlight a lot of wasted work, regardless of contractual obligations.Hopefully it will be completed by next year. Unit 525 has already been fitted with the equipment. Also not all is lost if will be kept for departmental use then.
The Class 365 ETCS fitment programme has been ongoing since 2015, so it’s certainly not anything new.Yes other than departmental use I cannot see why one standalone 365 would find an operating future. While scrapping it like the rest wouldn't surprise me, this would highlight a lot of wasted work, regardless of contractual obligations.
Yes there is zero point in sending a 365 to Moorgate... For starters, forgetting the lack of DC, they're probably not cleared.Anything’s possible with enough money!
But no, I doubt that 525 will be involved with Moorgate. It wouldn’t make any sense, given that the 717s are the only passenger stock that operate the Northern City.
Or that 313 test unit they already have for initial tests? Presumably the 717 fleet came with ETCS fitted as new?.Yes there is zero point in sending a 365 to Moorgate... For starters, forgetting the lack of DC, they're probably not cleared.
Its way more likely they'd use a 717 to test it all!