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004 and 1 other are not. Used in driver trainingAre all the SE 707's now wearing the "CityBeam" livery and in active service?
004 and 1 other are not. Used in driver trainingAre all the SE 707's now wearing the "CityBeam" livery and in active service?
Thank you004 and 1 other are not. Used in driver training
004 has been in Gillingham depot on 7 road for weeks now still in red with another unidentified unit at the country end. been told thats its too cold to apply the blue transfers as they dont adhere too good to the red body707001 is out in service now, not sure about 707004
It's been in double figures today004 has been in Gillingham depot on 7 road for weeks now still in red with another unidentified unit at the country end. been told thats its too cold to apply the blue transfers as they dont adhere too good to the red body
003 would be the other one. All the rest including 002 and 025 are now in blue.004 has been in Gillingham depot on 7 road for weeks now still in red with another unidentified unit at the country end. been told thats its too cold to apply the blue transfers as they dont adhere too good to the red body
Yeah, and they will be weekday only for quite a while yet.I take it the 707s are still only used on Weekdays?
When will it change may I ask?Yeah, and they will be weekday only for quite a while yet.
Low standards have our railways now. They are a step backwards even. No loos.Had my first ride on a Southeastern 707 today. Slightly ridiculous the way they're pushing the trains and the Citybeam brand name, which even appears on the platform destination screens, as if they were something special!
There is provision for them to be quickly retrofitted.Low standards have our railways now. They are a step backwards even. No loos.
And EVEN if they were a massive step up, they're only a small sub fleet anyway, so the majority of journeys will still be by Networker or 376, so it's not as if it's a complete fleet replacement.Low standards have our railways now. They are a step backwards even. No loos.
Yes, they are a massive step down compared to the loo-less, un-airconditioned 376s.They are a step backwards even. No loos.
Yes this is just a stop gap PR stunt to stick a plaster over the problem. The reality is while the Networkers that have gone to store are likely to have seen their last days of service, the majority of the fleet left have a good few years at least, as no replacement order has been lined up, and even when one is, a combination of the fleet size needed, and the delays we've seen getting SWR's 701s into service, suggest a long wait. I would have thought that if the benefits of one large fleet for metro services outweigh costs, then chances are a new fleet will also replace the 376s and 707s, so the latter will once again be finding a new home after maybe just 10 years of service, if that.And EVEN if they were a massive step up, they're only a small sub fleet anyway, so the majority of journeys will still be by Networker or 376, so it's not as if it's a complete fleet replacement.
At least the 376s have seats I can actually fit in - the Desiro City seats are too close to the wall, meaning that the person sitting in the window seat sprawls into the aisle seatYes, they are a massive step down compared to the loo-less, un-airconditioned 376s.
At least the 376s have seats I can actually fit in - the Desiro City seats are too close to the wall, meaning that the person sitting in the window seat sprawls into the aisle seat
But there are no seat spacers on the Networkers.At least the 376s have seats I can actually fit in - the Desiro City seats are too close to the wall, meaning that the person sitting in the window seat sprawls into the aisle seat
With 5 across seating, you need to be the 4th person to occupy the row before you have to squeeze next to someone, whereas with narrow 4 across seating, you only need to be the 3rd person.But there are no seat spacers on the Networkers.
Highly debatable (without taking this thread off topic)I am sure that in time people will get used to the interior, just as they have elsewhere. Nobody complains about the seats on a 700 or 717 now. People seem able to sit near the window without having to struggle to get comfortable.
Yes I know.With 5 across seating, you need to be the 4th person to occupy the row before you have to squeeze next to someone, whereas with narrow 4 across seating, you only need to be the 3rd person.
I actually think Connex got a lot right about the interiors of the 376s. They were the first proper S-bahn-type unit IMO (rather than simply cramming in loads of 3+2 seating with no thought to circulation around the doors or standing areas).At least the 376s have seats I can actually fit in - the Desiro City seats are too close to the wall, meaning that the person sitting in the window seat sprawls into the aisle seat
Agreed! Link to 376 refurb threadI actually think Connex got a lot right about the interiors of the 376s. They were the first proper S-bahn-type unit IMO (rather than simply cramming in loads of 3+2 seating with no thought to circulation around the doors or standing areas).
At least the 376s have seats I can actually fit in - the Desiro City seats are too close to the wall, meaning that the person sitting in the window seat sprawls into the aisle seat
Which is why the SWR 455s and 458s have blanking plates between the seats.When 376s were introduced the seat design was so bad it increased pickpocketing.
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Realtime Trains | 5Z60 1900 Wimbledon Park C.S.D. to Slade Green T&R.S.M.D | 14/04/2022
Real-time train running information for 5Z60 1900 departure from Wimbledon Park C.S.D. to Slade Green T&R.S.M.D on 14/04/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.www.realtimetrains.co.uk