Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

[swt_passenger]

That’s what is going to happen, I imagine.

We must hope so. A good start would be if the railway press gave it all a good ignoring...

 

[HarryL]

A silver front end is an interesting choice and certainly different to the black or yellow, would be interesting to see how it actually looks in real life away from the shiny renders, is there a purpose for the logo panel on the front or is it just aesthetic? Also, didn't EMR adjust their livery into a mostly grey with the purple ends? So would this be an exception to that change or is the render using the non-adjusted livery?

Also some people might hate me for this, but I feel the HST should have been a brand and applied to evolutions of trains, like how the TGV is done down in France and the 80x's would be the latest version of that. It's too late now of course since each operator have given them different names and I'm not convinced any of them will stick for long after the current ToCs pass on.

 

[Domh245]

Also, didn't EMR adjust their livery into a mostly grey with the purple ends? So would this be an exception to that change or is the render using the non-adjusted livery?

The white & grey with purple ends is the interim livery for stock that won't be staying with them. All over aubergine is the final livery, as per the 170s

 

[superalbs]

A few other fronts, black and pink basically.

The pink one looks...suspect...but nice imo.

 

[D_MTrains]

'EMR Aurora'.

News from EMR - Aurora is due to start testing in mid-2022 and enter service in early 2023.

"Aurora is the name of the Roman goddess of the dawn, representing a new start by our bi-mode fleet for the East Midlands and South Yorkshire.

It is also inspired by the Northern Lights, created by the transfer of the sun's solar energy. Our new Aurora fleet will operate under electric power where possible, replacing our existing diesel trains on the Midland Main Line."

Thank you to everyone who submitted their name suggestions - the name Aurora was an entry by Trevor Parkin, Head of Operations at EMR, and one of our customers"

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Am I the only one who thinks that this name has absolutely nothing to do with the East Midlands... that was the main factor for the name that they wanted.

I was also very stupid by thinking that the public would actually be allowed to name a train fleet...

 

[43096]

'EMR Aurora'.

Am I the only one who thinks that this name has absolutely nothing to do with the East Midlands... that was the main factor for the name that they wanted.

I was also very stupid by thinking that the public would actually be allowed to name a train fleet...

To be fair, it is better than a lot of such competitions and suggestions. We should be grateful it’s not “Trainy McTrainface”.

 

[Roger B]

To be fair, it is better than a lot of such competitions and suggestions. We should be grateful it’s not “Trainy McTrainface”.

Or Arterio!

 

[43096]

Or Arterio!

Good point!

 

[raetiamann]

'EMR Aurora'.

Am I the only one who thinks that this name has absolutely nothing to do with the East Midlands... that was the main factor for the name that they wanted.

I was also very stupid by thinking that the public would actually be allowed to name a train fleet...

Agreed, an East Midland connection was high of the list for sele ing the name of the fleet. Very disappointing

 

[InTheEastMids]

Hearing the Class 180s are going to be rebranded as "Vulcan", in keeping with EMR's newfound love for Roman deities.

 

[Roger B]

Hearing the Class 180s are going to be rebranded as "Vulcan", in keeping with EMR's newfound love for Roman deities.

... and bombers?

 

[High Dyke]

With all these different names are they expecting enthusiasts to bow down and consider the trains to be deities? If we really want a connection to the local area, but keeping in the vein of silly names why not call them Eh-up's!

 

[DB]

If we really want a connection to the local area, but keeping in the vein of silly names why not call them Eh-up's!

Too far south - 'Me Duck' might be more suitable for trains serving Nottingham!

 

[3141]

Aventra was Bombardier‘s name for their “post Electrostar” EMU range though. So if all the Aventra operators simply used that name, what would be the problem? If there’s a need to diffentiate Aventra models, use the class number, eg 345 Aventra or 701 Aventra; like we use 375, 376, 377, 387 all Electrostars...

You're right, and I wondered if anyone would point that out, so you've enabled me to win a small bet with myself (an extra biscuit with a cup of coffee tonight!). Aventra is equivalent to Desiro in that respect. A difference between Aventra and Electrostar or Turbostar is that those two names have a connection with the type of train they are; I think Turbostar came first, and was probably derived from the name "Turbo" given to the class 165s and 166s ("turbo" being a popular word to use in a product's name in the early 1990s). Electrostar was a logical name for the equivalent electric units.

Interesting that Adelante and Coradio never caught on, probably because there was only one class of each.

 

[DB]

You're right, and I wondered if anyone would point that out, so you've enabled me to win a small bet with myself (an extra biscuit with a cup of coffee tonight!). Aventra is equivalent to Desiro in that respect. A difference between Aventra and Electrostar or Turbostar is that those two names have a connection with the type of train they are; I think Turbostar came first, and was probably derived from the name "Turbo" given to the class 165s and 166s ("turbo" being a popular word to use in a product's name in the early 1990s). Electrostar was a logical name for the equivalent electric units.

Interesting that Adelante and Coradio never caught on, probably because there was only one class of each.

Transpennine also tried 'Pennine' for the 185s - they abandoned that quite quickly. Hull Trains also used 'Pioneer' for their 222s but that didn't last either. They are now trying to use 'Paragon' for their IEPs, which are nearly the same as the LNER IEPs which are called 'Azuma', and the Transpenning IEPs which are called 'Nova 1', and the GWR IEPs which I don't believe have a silly name...

 

[MML]

'The Brief' for the name was to have some historical reference to the Midlands region and railway, or to have a name capturing the features and technological advancement present in the new fleet.
Aurora is associated with Polar regions and isn't visible from the Midlands or anywhere on the MML.
It is typically green in colour, not purple or aubergine like the train.
Aurora is the Roman goddess of the dawn with the closest affiliation to the region being Dawn the name of the manageress of a nice little Italian restaurant in Bedford.
The name was however chosen by the Head of Operations at EMR, a golfing buddy of the Chief Executive.
Makes perfect sense then.

 

[TRAX]

The headlights look a bit 196-y.

 

[PG]

In some ways it'd be best if they hadn't backsolved the name though and just declared that they were called Auroras though

I suppose if they make a heck of a racquet when in service then locals might find some sense in the name!

 

[superalbs]

I suppose if they make a heck of a racquet when in service then locals might find some sense in the name!

To be honest the 802s with just one engine are very loud, so two engines will no doubt be a racket.

 

[800001]

To be honest the 802s with just one engine are very loud, so two engines will no doubt be a racket.

An 802 operates using 3 diesel engines and are very quite,

 

[ScottGallagher]

In Disney terms Aurora was the name of Sleeping Beauty, maybe they think the MML will wake up and fulfill it's potential after a kiss from its new trains.

Staying with that wasn't the MML considered the Cinderella of the Intercity group to some in BR

 

[adc82140]

Why not just be done with it and either call them Dave or Sandra.

 

[Western Sunset]

What about "Purple Bricks"? Oh, that's already been taken though...

Or something succinct like the "Leicester, Nottingham, Derby and Sheffield Units".

Or maybe have no name at all, in good Midland Railway tradition.

 

[DorkingMain]

They wanted the 810 fleet to have a name that represents the East Midlands. How does Aurora represent or even relate to the East Midlands?

The trains look good but the name choice doesn't seem very "East Midland" to me?

I suggested the name Peverels in line with the historic link to Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire. A shame they chose something so generic.

 

[Killingworth]

Why not just be done with it and either call them Dave or Sandra.

Aroma - maybe that's just a Arumour ?

 

[Mikey C]

Call them the Cloughies, that'll please half the 4 main cities they serve!

 

[hst43102]

To be fair, what names can you associate with the East Midlands?

 

[hexagon789]

I suppose if they make a heck of a racquet when in service then locals might find some sense in the name!

What about "Clangers" after the Bedfordshire dish then?

 

[midland1]

A name associated with the East Midlands what about " Trent"

 

[43066]

To be fair, what names can you associate with the East Midlands?

Scally?