Lewisham2221
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Somewhat ironic that there are benches on the platforms at Euston, they must be some of the least used in the country
I was in no way trying to blame passengers. Just pointing out that nowadays people live their lives at 100mph and as a result will always cut it as fine as they dareSomewhat ironic that there are benches on the platforms at Euston, they must be some of the least used in the country
and some hidden ones if you know where to look for them. Once upon a time there was nothing or very little.Somewhat ironic that there are benches on the platforms at Euston, they must be some of the least used in the country
hahahaha sounds about right. I've seen it the other way around!Saw something a bit silly tonight. 20:3X Pendo to Preston was loading on platform 3 with all the ticket barriers set to enter when it finally got announced at 20;22. Roughly the same time a busy LNR from Crewe arrived on platform 2 taking the Avanti staff 5 minutes to notice the large crowd building from the LNR before they opened a side gate for those LNR passengers to exit.
And this after ORR involvement. I despairSaw something a bit silly tonight. 20:3X Pendo to Preston was loading on platform 3 with all the ticket barriers set to enter when it finally got announced at 20;22. Roughly the same time a busy LNR from Crewe arrived on platform 2 taking the Avanti staff 5 minutes to notice the large crowd building from the LNR before they opened a side gate for those LNR passengers to exit.
Euston is shambolic and if anything is getting worse.The same, but without any hint of jest. The idea anyone could be even vaguely familiar with how boarding works at Euston and think "Ah, it must be the passengers turning up at the last minute." is comical.
If, or more likely when, someone gets hurt at Euston as a result of this then Network Rail will likely be justifiably castigated and hopefully some senior folk will lose their positions.And this after ORR involvement. I despair
No excuse. It was dire previously and their actions, including the bloody stupid new information boards, have made it much worse.Probably excuse the current set-up as part of the transitional arrangements whilst HS2 (or whatever is left of that) is being constructed.
They did, at least for Intercity services, indeed. What doesn't help in that respect is the number of platforms each ramp serves.Didn't they used to announce the platform and then make people queue on the ramps if the train wasn't actually ready for boarding? I'm sure that's what they did when I went that way with my parents in the early 80s
How often do Avanti departures at Euston get switched, late on, from the low-numbered platforms to the high-numbered ones, or vice-versa?
If the issue is late posting of the platform number I fail to see what difference the new boards make (unless it is the fact that they are now replicated 'outside' so some passengers who have been having a smoke might take slightly longer to walk to their platform).No excuse. It was dire previously and their actions, including the bloody stupid new information boards, have made it much worse.
They have also, at least in my opinion, made circulation around the concourse at Euston worse.If the issue is late posting of the platform number I fail to see what difference the new boards make (unless it is the fact that they are now replicated 'outside' so some passengers who have been having a smoke might take slightly longer to walk to their platform).
(As I have made clear several times before, I am in the evident minority who finds the new boards much easier to see and read but then everyone's eyesight, visual field, varifocal prescription as applicable, etc. is different.)
Am I missing part of your point?
Or women, for that matter... *sigh*It can't be beyond the wit of man!
The ticket office at Euston is probably bigger than it needs to be these days is there scope for extending the concourse through there, I realise you have the assisted travel in the way but just a thought
Could there not be a halfway fix in that people could be asked to wait in that zone of 12 to 16 for their train not necessarily giving the platform straight away, and the same for 1 to 7, would reduce the sprints from that side of the station if train was on platform 1 and vice versaI'm not convinced, the main issue isn't the concourse but the narrow tunnel to the platforms. That has been widened by lopping the corner out on the busier side but it's still unpleasant.
There's little fixing the station without demolishing it (shame the HS2 rebuild is out) but they could fix how it is operated which would mean fewer people on the concourse at once.
I'm really not sure what the obsession with keeping passengers off the platform, every other station in the country allows passengers on the platform even if the train isn't there/isn't ready.Could there not be a halfway fix in that people could be asked to wait in that zone of 12 to 16 for their train not necessarily giving the platform straight away, and the same for 1 to 7, would reduce the sprints from that side of the station if train was on platform 1 and vice versa
On the contrary, many people across SE England live life in a dawdle, and cut it fine because they have little spatial or time awareness. Getting between platforms at Three Bridges can be a pain with a tight connection when people are dawdling along on the ramps gawping at their phones and somehow managing to position themselves so as to consume maximum space.I was in no way trying to blame passengers. Just pointing out that nowadays people live their lives at 100mph and as a result will always cut it as fine as they dare
If you use RTT advance mode, you can get the headcode and you can use that on traksy.uk (mpas side) or OpenTrainTimes maps (and others may also be available) which have a network rail signaling-based feed. RTT advanced may also give you the set number(s), although beware of last minute swaps.As a rule, I'll always use RTT to check platform allocation at Euston, then wait near the bottom of the ramps until it looks like people are being allowed through. I know RTT isn't connected to Darwin, but 99% of the time it's spot on and I never really have any bother at Euston.
I think you will find that is a universal problem, not one confined to the SE. And this existed before the existence of mobile phones tooOn the contrary, many people across SE England live life in a dawdle, and cut it fine because they have little spatial or time awareness. Getting between platforms at Three Bridges can be a pain with a tight connection when people are dawdling along on the ramps gawping at their phones and somehow managing to position themselves so as to consume maximum space.
You will be well placed to compare and contrast two stations where the concept of customer service is distinctly more notional than actual.I will be using Euston on Monday to go to Blackpool North. If I had not been before all this talk and the talk about the Gents would get me worried. Similarly previous talk about the reception waiting at Blackpool North.