First Greater Glasgow

[AndrewTaylor95]

I understand that - which part of my message did I say otherwise?

You said travelling on one as if there was more than that with First

 

[JumpinTrainz]

You said travelling on one as if there was more than that with First

Oh I just meant the E400EV in general

 

[Glasgowbusguy]

Quick question

With the 43 now extended to the fort (stupid decision imo) does it have any recovery time?
As the couple of times I have seen it at parkhead and the fort ot has arrived picked up and departed with no time standing.

 

[LT02 NVV]

Last day of the 1B & 1D today, they’ll be gone tomorrow.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Last day of the 1B & 1D today, they’ll be gone tomorrow.

I imagine Dumbarton will be at a surplus of vehicles. Some buses moving tonight to other depots?

 

[LT02 NVV]

I imagine Dumbarton will be at a surplus of vehicles. Some buses moving tonight to other depots?

I’ll be out on Monday morning anyway, so I’ll let you guys know about the 1C changes.

 

[ScotRail158725]

I imagine Dumbarton will be at a surplus of vehicles. Some buses moving tonight to other depots?

should be 678xx moving to scotstoun the rest of the stuff remaining at dumbarton

 

[LT02 NVV]

should be 678xx moving to scotstoun the rest of the stuff remaining at dumbarton

Why just the 678xx fleet?
There’s bound to be a couple of 677xx’s moving too.

 

[ScotRail158725]

Why just the 678xx fleet?
There’s bound to be a couple of 677xx’s moving too.

Why is there? 67849-859 is 11 buses and Scotstoun is only getting a PVR increase of 6, you do the maths but 11 will definately cover an increase of 6

 

[LT02 NVV]

Why is there? 67849-859 is 11 buses and Scotstoun is only getting a PVR increase of 6, you do the maths but 11 will definately cover an increase of 6

How do you know it’s those ones? Could be any of the Dumbarton E300s, like a mix of fleet numbers.

 

[David M]

Used 6 First Glasgow buses yesterday and only the last one had working ticket/fare facilities - all the others (Services 1, 6 and 6A) saw the driver simply wavig everyone on.
Was there a serious outage or just coincidence?
All were displaying OVD Ferrovia (or similar) on their internal displays.

 

[camro]

Used 6 First Glasgow buses yesterday and only the last one had working ticket/fare facilities - all the others (Services 1, 6 and 6A) saw the driver simply wavig everyone on.
Was there a serious outage or just coincidence?
All were displaying OVD Ferrovia (or similar) on their internal displays.

Ferrograph OVD (On Vehicle Display). These screens used to show current stop / next stop info just like the MMCs and EVs do now, but after a while they got harder to manage and now just display that text. You'll see them on Geminis, E400s and E300s.

 

[LT02 NVV]

The 1C has been a bit of a mess this morning, bus were running late earlier, pretty sure the 6:15am broke down, and a replacement bus had to be sent out and cover for it.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

The 1C has been a bit of a mess this morning, bus were running late earlier, pretty sure the 6:15am broke down, and a replacement bus had to be sent out and cover for it.

Looks to be a mixture of E300s and E200EVs. No deckers as of yet.

 

[LT02 NVV]

Looks to be a mixture of E300s and E200EVs. No deckers as of yet.

Yeah, I noticed that a bunch of E300s (mix of numbers) have been transferred to Scotstoun, some of them are on the 3, 6, 8/16, and 90 services this morning.

 

[michaelfarnell]

The 1C has been a bit of a mess this morning, bus were running late earlier, pretty sure the 6:15am broke down, and a replacement bus had to be sent out and cover for it.

The 1/1A hasn't been much better with numerous of them coming together and being 1 behind each other

The 1C has been a bit of a mess this morning, bus were running late earlier, pretty sure the 6:15am broke down, and a replacement bus had to be sent out and cover for it.

The 11 has ran pretty much to time except with a couple who have been confused what way to turn on Duntocher Road but the 11 seems to be relatively fine with a few of the elderly being confused whether the M11 is the 11 just renumbered doesn't help the apps barley working and the timetable boards aren't updated neither with the screens on front of the bus saying via Anniesland and Kelvindale when it used to run as tendered

 

[Jordan Adam]

What about the Geminis? Will they be sent back to Glasgow or be kept in Aberdeen?

Most of the Geminis were supposed to be staying until all the hydrogen buses were back in service, which will probably be next year if the green hydrogen facility is not met with further delays.

The most recent internal fleetsheet has the Geminis staying and the Streetlites departing instead once 39701-15 return to service.

 

[sannox]

Quick question

With the 43 now extended to the fort (stupid decision imo) does it have any recovery time?
As the couple of times I have seen it at parkhead and the fort ot has arrived picked up and departed with no time standing.

It's got time both ends. Whether it is enough is another question...

Is there a reason extending to the Fort is a bad idea - out of town centres are doing pretty well for footfall these days and not unreasonable to see buses go there.

 

[michaelfarnell]

The 1/1A hasn't been much better with numerous of them coming together and being 1 behind each other


The 11 has ran pretty much to time except with a couple who have been confused what way to turn on Duntocher Road but the 11 seems to be relatively fine with a few of the elderly being confused whether the M11 is the 11 just renumbered doesn't help the apps barley working and the timetable boards aren't updated neither with the screens on front of the bus saying via Anniesland and Kelvindale when it used to run as tendered

Yeah I take the 11 comment back there's been 2 coming together for some part

 

[route101]

Blantyre seem to have a fair few of the older B9TLs, still put on streetlites on the X11 though.

 

[Glasgowbusguy]

It's got time both ends. Whether it is enough is another question...

Is there a reason extending to the Fort is a bad idea - out of town centres are doing pretty well for footfall these days and not unreasonable to see buses go there.

The bus station at the for is notorious for being poorly designed for terminating buses you have 3 stops servicing the following service's 19 , X19 , 38 , 38A ,43 , 46, 60 , 60A and 310 . All stops are on a line with each other and buses can't sit for long during the day. Where as at easterhouse shopping centre you have stands for recovery time at the rear and both side's of the centre.

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

Blantyre seem to have a fair few of the older B9TLs, still put on streetlites on the X11 though.

They only have 6 B9TLs, same amount they've always had in recent times

 

[LT02 NVV]

Looks to be a mixture of E300s and E200EVs. No deckers as of yet.

That’s all changed this morning, as an E400 (33910) is out on the 1C.

Plus the 5:55 (which becomes a 6) and the 6:15 (which becomes a 77) had doubles on this morning.

Also, I’ve figured out which E300s have transferred from Dumbarton to other depots recently. Dunno if more will move, but here’s what I’ve noticed so far.

Caledonia: 67718, 67853
Scotstoun: 67723, 67727, 67733, 67734, 67767, 67850, 67851, 67857

 

[camro]

That’s all changed this morning, as an E400 (33910) is out on the 1C.

33910 hasn't been tracking since January, I don't know what's up with that.

67853 seems to be a transfer from today, while 718 was out on Kirky runs yesterday (X85, X87). But apparently there are more in Caley from Scotstoun that haven't gone out yet.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

33910 hasn't been tracking since January, I don't know what's up with that.

67853 seems to be a transfer from today, while 718 was out on Kirky runs yesterday (X85, X87). But apparently there are more in Caley from Scotstoun that haven't gone out yet.

I’m wondering if the E300s at Caley are a permanent thing or if this is just while there is a vehicle shortage.

 

[camro]

I’m wondering if the E300s at Caley are a permanent thing or if this is just while there is a vehicle shortage.

I don't think E300s at Caley is ever a permanent thing, but with the return of Eclipse Urbans there may be more surprises

But apparently there are more in Caley from Scotstoun that haven't gone out yet.

Correction, there are some buses in Caley from Blantyre today. Just passed it riding on 70101 and seen one of the Essex 72 plate Streetlites parked up, could be either as they both aren't out yet.

 

[LT02 NVV]

I don't think E300s at Caley is ever a permanent thing, but with the return of Eclipse Urbans there may be more surprises


Correction, there are some buses in Caley from Blantyre today. Just passed it riding on 70101 and seen one of the Essex 72 plate Streetlites parked up, could be either as they both aren't out yet.

Could be getting ready to be sent back to Essexs? Not sure.

 

[singlemalt]

Could be getting ready to be sent back to Essexs? Not sure.

Is 70101 a mirrorless bus or cameras ? I thought first were going with cameras on all new buses

 

[cnjb8]

Is 70101 a mirrorless bus or cameras ? I thought first were going with cameras on all new buses

70101 has mirrors, it's not really a new bus it's just converted from diesel to electric

 

[Metal Mickey]

Is 70101 a mirrorless bus or cameras ? I thought first were going with cameras on all new buses

It’s not a new bus, it’s 10 years old and has been converted from diesel engine to electric and that’s why it doesn’t have cameras.