GWR Class 800

[800001]

800006 has ventured out onto the test track today, switching between diesel and electric mode.

 

[Mag_seven]

To clarify - Test trains between North Pole and Exeter would use the 'X' headcode to ensure the signaller routes it via Bristol, where it is cleared to operate. If it had a 'Z' headcode it would almost certainly be sent down the Berks & Hants line, where the IEP isn't cleared to go at present as the routing would be automatic.

Oh yes it is:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97132/2017/03/06/advanced

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97136/2017/03/07/advanced

 

[louis97]

To clarify - Test trains between North Pole and Exeter would use the 'X' headcode to ensure the signaller routes it via Bristol, where it is cleared to operate. If it had a 'Z' headcode it would almost certainly be sent down the Berks & Hants line, where the IEP isn't cleared to go at present as the routing would be automatic.

Except ARS would only route the train its booked route, so if it was booked to go via Bristol it would be routed that way.

 

[Typhoon_93]

Aycliffe Hitachi Factory Thursday 09/03/17

Class 801 (9car) in Yard.
800006 in Yard coupled to 008 for most of the day.
800008 in Yard coupled to 006 for most of the day.
800009 sticking out of test shed.
800010 sticking out of test shed.

Another shell (813024) delivered in today. One more shell due tomorrow to complete delivery of IEP024/800024.

Gareth

 

[fgwrich]

So, a question raised on RMweb about last weekends tests.

Does anybody know what happened on the trial runs last Saturday night? *The train left Reading early but lost almost 2 hours in running between Reading and Goring with a somewhat mixed performance onwards to Wantage Road while the back working lost 6 minutes between Moreton Cutting and Reading. *The second Down run lost 3 minutes between Reading and Goring and the second Up run lost 4 minutes over the same stretch while the third run was cancelled - presumably because by then it was too late as the second Up run was 153 minutes late into Reading.

E.g.
To Wantage Road. http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97524/2017/03/05/advanced

From Wantage Road.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97525/2017/03/05/advanced

Third run cancelled throughout due to a delay not investigated (OU).
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97526/2017/03/05/advanced

So for what was supposed to be a test run for a pair of these things, It hardly looks good ending up running late then later. One of the internet Wisdom suggests it's traction package related.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

I don't think you can read too much into the RTT data.
On the NW scheme, one of the tests involved parking 2 Pendolinos on adjacent tracks at Eccles, and then both setting off in opposite directions at full power.
That wouldn't have looked pretty on RTT, but apparently the OHLE tests were fine.
Pendolinos had well-known traction packages, however.

 

[D1009]

So, a question raised on RMweb about last weekends tests.



E.g.
To Wantage Road. http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97524/2017/03/05/advanced

From Wantage Road.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97525/2017/03/05/advanced

Third run cancelled throughout due to a delay not investigated (OU).
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97526/2017/03/05/advanced

So for what was supposed to be a test run for a pair of these things, It hardly looks good ending up running late then later. One of the internet Wisdom suggests it's traction package related.

If you read page 251 of this thread, these were the first tests on this stretch for a few weeks, and they took place within a 4 line possession on Saturday night with no booked traffic. The chances are the delays were due to tests of the OHL equipment rather than anything to do with the traction package.

 

[D1009]

800101 was outside Stoke Gifford depot today, presumably having worked 5X80 and 5X81 from Doncaster last evening.

 

[Chris125]

One of the first body shells for Italy. Thus 802.
It is a regular occurrence for the body shells to be moved by road from the factory to the dock for shipment. Only this move was during day light hours and subject to some local Hitachi PR. Hence the crowds.

That's not a bodyshell, that's a complete vehicle - presumably one of the pre-production 802s being sent here for testing this summer IIRC.

 

[Typhoon_93]

That's not a bodyshell, that's a complete vehicle - presumably one of the pre-production 802s being sent here for testing this summer IIRC.

That is exactly how the body shells are delivered to the factory at Aycliffe, it is far from complete but not as far as the shell recently pictured in Italy.

 

[Chris125]

That is exactly how the body shells are delivered to the factory at Aycliffe, it is far from complete but not as far as the shell recently pictured in Italy.

Am I missing something here? The photo of the first Italian bodyshell shows a basic shell as would be expected for something being assembled in another country.



The vehicle pictured in Japan however is clearly all but complete - windows, doors, headlights, underframe equipment, even the windscreen wipers are fitted!

[youtube]yDbf4mC1zZo?t=2m7s[][/youtube]

 

[Typhoon_93]

Am I missing something here? The photo of the first Italian bodyshell shows a basic shell as would be expected for something being assembled in another country.



The vehicle pictured in Japan however is clearly all but complete - windows, doors, headlights, underframe equipment, even the windscreen wipers are fitted!

[youtube]yDbf4mC1zZo?t=2m7s[][/youtube]

If I could figure out how to post a pic on here I would of either 811024 or 815024 both delivered into Aycliffe this week in the same state as the ones in Japan.

 

[800001]

If I could figure out how to post a pic on here I would of either 811024 or 815024 both delivered into Aycliffe this week in the same state as the ones in Japan.

There is a pic from 024 arriving at Aycliffe this week.

 

[Typhoon_93]

IEP shells delivered in this week part of 800024 (815024 and 811024)

 

[Domh245]

So what actually happens at Newton Aycliffe? Mate the shell to it's bogies, fit the pantograph, couplers, and external destination displays and then fit out the interior?

 

[Typhoon_93]

So what actually happens at Newton Aycliffe? Mate the shell to it's bogies, fit the pantograph, couplers, and external destination displays and then fit out the interior?

Yea pretty much and still quite a bit underneath, also on the intermediate coaches need all the engines/power packs fitted too. The bogies also arrive complete by road. The shell pictured in Italy needs everything.

 

[Chris125]

IEP shells delivered in this week part of 800024 (815024 and 811024)

I see what you mean, that photo of the first Italian body appears to have been a little misleading then?

 

[D1009]

800101 now on its way to Plymouth on 5X30, though strangely nothing in RTT regarding subsequent movements.

 

[Typhoon_93]

There is a schedule in RTT for Thursday. Doncaster IEP depot to Merchants Park. If things happen the same as 800005's delivery this should be one coming in to escort 800006 south on Friday.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97569/2017/03/16/advanced

Activities at the factory over the past week
800008 appeared outside for the first time Tuesday 07/03/17 and is now under test.
800009 appeared outside for the first time Thursday 09/03/2017.
800010 appeared outside for the first time Thursday 09/03/2017.
800011 appeared outside for the first time Tuesday 14/03/2017.
However still no sign of 800007.

All shells for 800024 arrived last week and the first shell for 800025 arrived today.

Hope this is of interest to someone.
Gareth.

 

[leomartin125]

There is a schedule in RTT for Thursday. Doncaster IEP depot to Merchants Park. If things happen the same as 800005's delivery this should be one coming in to escort 800006 south on Friday.

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97569/2017/03/16/advanced

Activities at the factory over the past week
800008 appeared outside for the first time Tuesday 07/03/17 and is now under test.
800009 appeared outside for the first time Thursday 09/03/2017.
800010 appeared outside for the first time Thursday 09/03/2017.
800011 appeared outside for the first time Tuesday 14/03/2017.
However still no sign of 800007.

All shells for 800024 arrived last week and the first shell for 800025 arrived today.

Hope this is of interest to someone.
Gareth.

Any reason why a brand spanking new IEP can't make it's own way down to North Pole? Why does it need an escort?

 

[800001]

Any reason why a brand spanking new IEP can't make it's own way down to North Pole? Why does it need an escort?

Most likely as it has only done a few miles on the Hitachi test track (its only 1.5km long). I know it spent an afternoon on the track alternating between diesel and electric traction. Gareth may know if it did anymore.

 

[Typhoon_93]

As far as i'am aware it only did them few hours, I can only guess there are some more tests that need to be done over a greater distance or higher speed as the test track is restricted to 15mph.

 

[Typhoon_93]

Timings now in RTT for the move south on Friday, possibly 800006+escort

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97572/2017/03/17/advanced

 

[superalbs]

Timings now in RTT for the move south on Friday, possibly 800006+escort

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97572/2017/03/17/advanced

Is the escort another hitachi?

And another question, can the higher-spec GWR ordered units work with the lower-spec DfT ordered ones?

Thanks.

 

[Typhoon_93]

It will just be another class 800. Anyone know which are at Doncaster at the moment...?

 

[leomartin125]

It will just be another class 800. Anyone know which are at Doncaster at the moment...?

Would be either 800001 or 800002, I believe 800101 is currently down here based at North Pole at present.

 

[Darandio]

A GWR liveried one has just passed York on a run from Doncaster to Merchant Park. http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97569/2017/03/16/advanced

Is that 800004?

 

[800001]

A GWR liveried one has just passed York on a run from Doncaster to Merchant Park. http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K97569/2017/03/16/advanced

Is that 800004?

Confirmed it is 800004

 

[leomartin125]

Confirmed it is 800004

Yup it was 800004, hopefully fixed after it's issues on test to Bristol.

https://twitter.com/huwsdavis/status/842307028886425600

It's heading up to Newton Aycliffe, presumably to pick up 800006 and escort it to North Pole via Doncaster Carr.

 

[route101]

Are any IEPs expected to be testing in Scotland?