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Issues North of Newcastle - Plessey Viaduct - 09/10 (onwards)

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Looking at that, it looks to be fortunate that the collpase didn't take down any electrification masts - or did the masts help to keep the nearby masonry in place?
The portals will be attached lower down to a part of the viaduct that isn't affected by the collapse. It might have stopped this part of the parapet from falling if there had been a portal in the way. Looking at that video, the collapse starts just after the last single track cantilever before the viaduct and ends just before the first portal within it, so it's possible those structures have stopped the collapse going any further.
 
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Press release


Network Rail and train operators are urging passengers travelling on services to, from and through Morpeth to check before travelling as repair work to Plessey Viaduct takes place.

A parapet on the viaduct, which is on the East Coast Main Line between Cramlington and Morpeth, was found to be damaged during planned engineering work earlier this month. This means that a reduced service has been in place since Sunday, 8 October.

Whilst the structural integrity of the viaduct has not been affected, specialist engineers from Network Rail need to carry out repair work to allow a full service to resume once more.

The repairs will see work to strengthen and rebuild the parapet wall. To do this, teams will install pre-cast concrete units to the structure, and carry out steel pinning. Once this is complete, teams will work to install 200 metres of new track, as well as ballast, the stones which support the rails.

The work to carry out full repairs will complete by Monday, 6 November. Teams from Network Rail will be carrying out the repairs overnight to minimise the impact for passengers.

Until the final repair work is complete, there will still be changes to some services in the area, with trains not calling at Morpeth in the southbound direction. There will be bus replacement services between Newcastle and Morpeth, and customers travelling between Newcastle and Manors may use their ticket on Tyne & Wear Metro services, between these locations only.

Passengers planning on travelling in this area are urged to check their journey ahead of time via National Rail Enquiries or with their train operator.
 

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It looks like a more difficult site than Nuneham, down a steep gorge surrounded by trees. Good roads are nearby, but you still need to build a long access road and cut down a lot of trees. Accessing the gorge with any sort of plant looks difficult, let alone climbing scaffolding all the way up, if that is going to the plan the plan.

Don't rule out issues with the masonry either, as it is Grade II listed, the powers that be won't be happy with slabs of concrete.
see post above shows how well they've cracked on. Whatever criticisms are laid at NR and many are valid as usual when there is a crisis on NR and its supply chains can work absolute wonders. If only we could encapsulate that for the day job.
 

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see post above shows how well they've cracked on. Whatever criticisms are laid at NR and many are valid as usual when there is a crisis on NR and its supply chains can work absolute wonders. If only we could encapsulate that for the day job.
It's amazing what a clearly defined scope and an effectively unlimited budget can do. Delay minutes seem to concentrate the mind a bit...
 

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Delay minutes seem to concentrate the mind a bit...

Which of course is, or at least should be, the whole purpose of the much-derided Delay Attribution system!

I travelled today on 1E07 0830 Edinburgh-Kings X, which had an additional stop at Alnmouth as 1E06 0648 Glasgow Central-Kings X was cancelled in reaction to yesterday's ECML disruption. So we were 3 minutes late approaching Morpeth, 10 minutes late passing Morpeth awaiting the single line, and 14 minutes late into Newcastle. There was a lot of activity at the viaduct, also an engineering train (minus loco) and various machines stabled on the Up line immediately south of the viaduct. I can't say I felt any trepidation at all crossing the structure, and the Train Manager made excellent announcements during the journey.
 

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It's amazing what a clearly defined scope and an effectively unlimited budget can do. Delay minutes seem to concentrate the mind a bit...
unlimited budget clearly helps but an immediate goal focuses the mind and puts paid to years of optioneering, discussion and approvals as well i would suggest
 

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My mind might be playing tricks but wasn't the viaduct braced/strengthened some years ago due to structural issues?
Yes. Back in 78/79 additional parapet extensions were added to provide handrails and a higher side wall (I find it amazing that structures such as these had no real side fence/protection for track workers for so many decades, or indeed that it was ever considered acceptable by those who built the structure!).

There was a project to add stitching bars to the parapet sections back in 2014, after which the viaduct was monitored for a few years but there was no movement so it was stopped. In the videos you can see some bars sticking out so I do wonder if those bars are the stitching bars. No idea though.

It begs the question - what if there were no planned engineering works and this happened during normal running of services? I dread to think about it.
It's rare that failures of this nature happen without some kind of external force or change. The change here was the removal of the track and the plant working over the viaduct. This both removed a surcharge load from the parapet bottom sections (the ballast) and also added different forces to the parapet walls due to the plant working next to it.

I believe the engineering work just uncovered it as there was a planned rerail that evening so the excavators uncovered the extent of the damage while carrying out the rerail.
It was a full renewal, not a re-rail. The whole track bed was being removed and replaced. The failure happened during that.

Interesting it says they found parapet wall had moved and they didn't have machinery to move it back. If it had they shouldn't have ripped out all the track out. Still feels like the track renewal has caused the failure even if the wall was weakened already. Also did they then to decide to demolish wall or did it collaspe.
It moved after they had started removing the track, and works stopped once the failures became apparent.

Was the sidewall accidentally ‘nudged’ / touched by an excavator ?
The collapse did happen whilst there was a track renewal going on, and there were excavators and dozers on the viaduct at the time. From the internal briefings it's definately part of the investigation trying to establish whether that happened or not, although no firm conclusion either way has been reached yet.

Engineering question, and one that I know might be impossible to answer, but would I be correct in the assumption that the parapets aren't structural to the viaduct itself? In other words, the structural part of the viaduct is flat topped and the parapets were built on top of that.
Yes and no. As others have said, the side walls are structural in that they retain the ballast etc, and thus you couldn't put a railway track there without them. However, the fact that they have detached doesn't mean the rest of the viaduct structure underneath is unsafe - it's not.

Yes. Standing at the tiller of a traditional narrowboat, should you trip over your shoelace, there's nothing between you and the drop.

<checks shoelaces>
Having gone across that viaduct on a narrowboat myself, I can very much attest it was a bit scary but also pretty cool. We did get several people who were walking ask to step onto the boat and lok over the other side, and they all found it awesome but scary at the same time. It's a long drop!!

My daughter has just crossed southbound and took a video, there's obviously lots of activity in the field leading up to it. Her quote is that "it is off putting"

A back cab view cab over the viaduct during these works

Brilliant videos both - thank you.
 

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Yes. Back in 78/79 additional parapet extensions were added to provide handrails and a higher side wall (I find it amazing that structures such as these had no real side fence/protection for track workers for so many decades, or indeed that it was ever considered acceptable by those who built the structure!).

There was a project to add stitching bars to the parapet sections back in 2014, after which the viaduct was monitored for a few years but there was no movement so it was stopped. In the videos you can see some bars sticking out so I do wonder if those bars are the stitching bars. No idea though.

It's rare that failures of this nature happen without some kind of external force or change. The change here was the removal of the track and the plant working over the viaduct. This both removed a surcharge load from the parapet bottom sections (the ballast) and also added different forces to the parapet walls due to the plant working next to it.

It was a full renewal, not a re-rail. The whole track bed was being removed and replaced. The failure happened during that.

It moved after they had started removing the track, and works stopped once the failures became apparent.

The collapse did happen whilst there was a track renewal going on, and there were excavators and dozers on the viaduct at the time. From the internal briefings it's definately part of the investigation trying to establish whether that happened or not, although no firm conclusion either way has been reached yet.

Yes and no. As others have said, the side walls are structural in that they retain the ballast etc, and thus you couldn't put a railway track there without them. However, the fact that they have detached doesn't mean the rest of the viaduct structure underneath is unsafe - it's not.
Thank you, a most informative post, especially the timeline and likely sequence of events during the possession works.
 

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Yes. Back in 78/79 additional parapet extensions were added to provide handrails and a higher side wall (I find it amazing that structures such as these had no real side fence/protection for track workers for so many decades, or indeed that it was ever considered acceptable by those who built the structure!).
It took to the 21st Century to get guard rail protection installed around culverts in my area and even wing walls sometimes get the treatment these days although decent staff access has put paid to some of the more treacherous access arrangements that used to exist.
It's rare that failures of this nature happen without some kind of external force or change. The change here was the removal of the track and the plant working over the viaduct. This both removed a surcharge load from the parapet bottom sections (the ballast) and also added different forces to the parapet walls due to the plant working next to it.
It is but there have been several over the last few years that maybe RAIB or ORR should be taking a look as so far the debris hasn't fallen on anyone but there are numerous locations where it could.
The collapse did happen whilst there was a track renewal going on, and there were excavators and dozers on the viaduct at the time. From the internal briefings it's definately part of the investigation trying to establish whether that happened or not, although no firm conclusion either way has been reached yet.
The force that modern road rail plant can exert on the ballast is high from turning the wheels or the rotation of the tracks such that the ballast can be forced up against a parapet wall and exert a sideforce. Mind you dozing the ballast presents the highest force from ballast build up in front of the blade that would push against the wall but this stage of the renewal hadn't been reached looking at the pictures. That said the failure of the wall to move to that extent prior to failure would suggest the upper section wasn't very well secured to the lower part of the bridge. Perhaps the renewal was a blessing disguise to a failure under traffic.
 

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Is it a case of ‘no news is good news’ about this repair? Seems to be very little information online.
 

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Is it a case of ‘no news is good news’ about this repair? Seems to be very little information online.
Drove past it yesterday, still got plenty of people working on it. It looked from my untrained eye that they had built a new parapet out of concrete blocks at the edge of the bridge, so presumably they'll need to make sure they're strong enough and then started putting ballast back in followed by the track.
 

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Drove past it yesterday, still got plenty of people working on it. It looked from my untrained eye that they had built a new parapet out of concrete blocks at the edge of the bridge, so presumably they'll need to make sure they're strong enough and then started putting ballast back in followed by the track.
Thanks. Sounds reassuring.
 

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Although the Media Centre article, quoted by @snowball above (#182), states that the repairs will be complete by Monday November, the National Rail website is reporting that disruption will continue until at least the end of day on Friday November 10th. The footpath beneath the viaduct is closed until November 27th.

I would not be surprised if the endless rain has delayed progress somewhat.
 
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Although the Media Centre article, quoted by @snowball above (#182), states that the repairs will be complete by Monday November, the National Rail website is reporting that disruption will continue until at least the end of day on Friday November 10th. The footpath beneath the viaduct is closed until November 27th.

I would not be surprised if the endless rain has delayed progress somewhat.
It certainly has rained an awful lot up here in Northumberland I can understand that they will be behind. We are still underwater at Heatherslaw and the river levels are not yet dropping.
 

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Not sure it has a name but it's the bridge on the Heatherslaw Light Railway, Cornhill-on-Tweed above River Till.

Thanks. It must have originally carried the NER Tweedmouth-St Boswells line then?
It’s Heatherslaw Mill Bridge, the light railway runs under it. Bridge only carries a footpath now, old maps suggest it was always just an access road.

It will have a Cornhill address, but it’s not really near there.
 
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It’s Heatherslaw Mill Bridge, the light railway runs under it. Bridge only carries a footpath now. It will have a Cornhill address, but it’s not really near there.
Ah right. I've found it on maps now. It's not quite where I thought it was! Thanks!

Getting back on-topic, does it look as though any further bracing of the two end arches of Plessey Viaduct is taking place?
 

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Although the Media Centre article, quoted by @snowball above (#182), states that the repairs will be complete by Monday November, the National Rail website is reporting that disruption will continue until at least the end of day on Friday November 10th. The footpath beneath the viaduct is closed until November 27th.

I would not be surprised if the endless rain has delayed progress somewhat.
Latest update supplied to all Tocs, is they still expect hand back of the on 6th November, and progress is going to schedule.
 

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It certainly has rained an awful lot up here in Northumberland I can understand that they will be behind.

A bit of rain doesn‘t put off the Geordie workforce. No doubt they were working in t-shirts. Coats are for Southerners.
 

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A bit of rain doesn‘t put off the Geordie workforce. No doubt they were working in t-shirts. Coats are for Southerners.
Yes, spot on - a dear colleague from Newcastle who now sadly has passed always told me many times you could instantly recognise Southerners as they always wore coats whereas the 'locals' are lightly clothed including the ladies on a freezing cold night out! Its not freezing .. it's just 'fresh'
Yes I well believe the lads are working in t-shirts!
 

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Having been in Northumberland last week I can confirm it was very wet with rivers overflowing and roads flooded in many places. If the work is proceeding to schedule they've done very well - and even if it isn't they've done well.

Family members have been using trains to Alnmouth and they've been running almost as normal. That's a tribute to those designing the bi-directional signalling system, something that shouldn't be overlooked..
 

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Family members have been using trains to Alnmouth and they've been running almost as normal. That's a tribute to those designing the bi-directional signalling system, something that shouldn't be overlooked..
Yes. It is essential, and almost universal on main lines in the continental European countries that I have visited.
 

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As it's the Up line that's missing I presume that means the defects are with the parapet on the east side of the viaduct (i.e. the same side as the North Sea).
 

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The crossover that's being used is actually within Morpeth station itself, hence why many Up services aren't calling there.

Northern are only running the Chathill services, everything else withdrawn. Lumo are I think the only TOC running a full timetable up there, but with delays, and I think they are the only TOC calling at Morpeth heading towards Newcastle.
I'm guessing that that's because Lumo trains are only 5-cars so they can call at Morpeth in both directions without any problems because of the position of the crossover within Morpeth station.
 

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