Snow1964
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There is a tweet circulating which contains a photo of HCT (formerly Hackney Community Transport) letter advising staff that HCT are selling their red London bus business to Stagecoach London
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Mikey C
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Another minor operator in London giving up, there isn't a great deal of tender competition now between operators
Snow1964
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I wonder if they will just take over (novate) the buses and routes and not take the garages, especially as they recently inherited the large Lea Interchange from the Tower Transit takeover.
There are already parts of London where there is negligible competition in tenders. Not that TfL seems to be awarding any (I think last bus award was over 4 months ago)
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Stagecoach adding Tower Transit and HCT to its existing East London operations, they are now very strong in that region
With the modern Lea Interchange site (VOSA O-Licence for 250 - PVR= 141, from Tower Transit & ample space at the very large West Ham depot (VOSA O-Licence for 234 - current PVR =@113), a 'shuffle-round' seems likely. Ash Grove is owned by TFL and shared with Arriva. I would think HCT's Walthamstow depot is unlikely to survive.
I have not physically visited either of these sites & am aware that O Licence numbers don't always relate to physical parking space!
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busesrusuk
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Its spreading - refurb LT's included. See here:
Other flavours:
Mikey C
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Off topic, but good to see the VHRs (the Wrightbus SRM) are now finally fitted with opening windows!
chiltern trev
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Is this a standard single deck bus,new front, new back, fancy wheel covers and diesel bits replaced by electric?
Snow1964
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With TfL agreeing funding with the Government earlier this week, a number of overdue bus tender awards have been released
Some routes in same tranches E2, E8 (Ealing area) and 57, 85, 216 (Kingston area) were not announced
Some routes in same tranches E2, E8 (Ealing area) and 57, 85, 216 (Kingston area) were not announced
With TfL agreeing funding with the Government earlier this week, a number of overdue bus tender awards have been released
Some routes in same tranches E2, E8 (Ealing area) and 57, 85, 216 (Kingston area) were not announced
Not many changed hands!
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It seems more 'pass the parcel' these days. Time to rethink the whole foundation again?
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IanD
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Interesting interpretation of unanimous
Mikey C
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Interesting that Barking garage had a much higher percentage of yes votes than elsewhere
That was my first thought. A massive majority, but clearly not unanimous.
Mikey C
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I noticed today that Metroline have repainted one of their E400MMCs, and for some reason have painted the previously black narrow pillars between the bonded windows, red.
It looks terrible when compared to the usual black (not my photo)
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It looks terrible when compared to the usual black (not my photo)
Metroline Travel . TEH2080 LK15CSY . Paddington , London . Wednesday morning 22nd-April-2015
Alexander Dennis Enviro E40H Hybrid - ADL E400 MMC H66D New to this Operator earlier in April-2015 Although still displaying "Paddington" on the front destination screen TEH 2080 LK15CSY has pulled off of the Stand is now technically heading for "Brent Park ( Super Stores ) - that's Tesco...
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miklcct
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One night I saw a bus on route N189 turning up in service in Cricklewood. I can't find any information about this route. Is it the same as 189?
They don't get paid for any mileage that's not run.
There was a route N189 which was very similar to the 189 (which ran on to Brent Cross Shopping Centre), but it last ran in 2004.
The bus should have been showing 189. N189 is just a contract number, now. Since 24 April 2004 all buses should show 189. The N189 only ran between 11 October 2002 and 23 April 2004.
The renumbering happened when the night service was extended to the Shopping Centre.
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Was this recently? Did the bus have electronic or linen destination blinds? If the latter, it must have been a very old blind set.
miklcct
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It was recently (in last month) and with traditional blinds.
busesrusuk
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There have been recent changes to the stopping arrangements at Victoria. As far as i recall, Neathouse Place was always the starting point for the 185 (alighting point Wilton Road and then spin round to stand in Vauxhall Bridge Road with first pick up at Neathouse Place) - where have they recently been picking up?.
Changes I've noted are that the 52 has moved back into the bus station (stand A) whilst the 16, 170 and it appears the C10 (and possibly one other) now drop off in Terminus Place. Southbound 2's and 36's have been using Terminus Place for quite sometime now (reverting to their original stop for Victoria Station southbound). However, there is no chance of the 11 and 148 using terminus Place as construction continues and the cut through by Victoria Palace Theatre is still blocked by a bloody great crane which seems to have plenty of work still to do.
Sorry didn't read your post properly, where is stop E in Victoria Station?
Changes I've noted are that the 52 has moved back into the bus station (stand A) whilst the 16, 170 and it appears the C10 (and possibly one other) now drop off in Terminus Place. Southbound 2's and 36's have been using Terminus Place for quite sometime now (reverting to their original stop for Victoria Station southbound). However, there is no chance of the 11 and 148 using terminus Place as construction continues and the cut through by Victoria Palace Theatre is still blocked by a bloody great crane which seems to have plenty of work still to do.
Sorry didn't read your post properly, where is stop E in Victoria Station?
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busesrusuk
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So, a quick trip to Victoria earlier and the 185 is indeed now starting at stop E in terminus Place. Makes sense I suppose as it gives a common stop nearer to the station for buses heading south to Vauxhall. The other route I couldn't remember that terminates in Terminus Place is the 13.
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Well, that is groundbreaking! The 185 and the 58 tram before it have always started service in Vauxhall Bridge Road. I certainly don't remember it, but as a toddler I accompanied my grandfather on a tram from Victoria to the Oval just before conversion: apparently I insisted on the tram even though various 36 route buses left before us! I agree the move makes sense, the Oval and station-free Camberwell need adjoining stops at the very least.