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YesAre they still in northern livery?
YesAre they still in northern livery?
Yes. With external Northern branding. I expect that internal signs will have changed but I've not checked.Are they still in northern livery?
Will the 2x 150s go back to Worksop?I've heard May 2023 for the 150 return to Northern. As to 158s, I believe there are a few diagrams out of the cambrian circuits, at least one on Cardiff Holyhead for sure.
No idea, all I know is they're going back to Northern at some point. Don't know what they went to worksop for in the first place.Will the 2x 150s go back to Worksop?
Saw 2 possibly 3 units in Chester today. Was most surprising!Any sign of the class 230s entering service, thought I saw a photo of 230007 Near Bidston this week probably test run.
They have started driver training again.Saw 2 possibly 3 units in Chester today. Was most surprising!
They will be staying until 2 weeks before the December TT change when they are expected to return to Northern.No idea, all I know is they're going back to Northern at some point. Don't know what they went to worksop for in the first place.
I love your optimistic view!230008 was on Bidston Wrexham test runs on 17th February as transport for Wales brought them themselves they are not affected by vivarail's collapse will they start running May timetable.
Rumoured to be Chiltern but nothing has been confirmed yet. All 175s to be gone by end of summer I believe.Anyone know what's happening with 150230 hasn't been out since 26 February? Is it having an exam like 153312?
I see no 2 car 175s out in service. Any news on a new operator for them.
Are all 175s to be gone by the end of the Summer or just the 2 carriages? Are TFW confident enough 197s will be in service by the end of Summer/early September?Rumoured to be Chiltern but nothing has been confirmed yet. All 175s to be gone by end of summer I believe.
I think it was said 2 cars to be gone by end of August, I can't see all the 3s being gone by then.Are all 175s to be gone by the end of the Summer or just the 2 carriages? Are TFW confident enough 197s will be in service by the end of Summer/early September?
That's what I was thinking. Unless TFW are desperate to just get rid of them as soon as possible .I think it was said 2 cars to be gone by end of August, I can't see all the 3s being gone by then.
I might have been miss remembering things. Though I'm sure it was summer or September, I suppose it comes down to the 197s.That's what I was thinking. Unless TFW are desperate to just get rid of them as soon as possible .
You say that but 001 and 009 are the only operational two cars, one three car is at Ilford and of the therefore fifteen operational 175s, they’re sending maybe three or four out a day max already.I think it was said 2 cars to be gone by end of August, I can't see all the 3s being gone by then.
Possibly by the end of September. There must be enough 197s by then in service to replace the current 4 or 5 average amount of 175s in service daily. Keeping the 3 of the 170s until October or November will also help.I might have been miss remembering things. Though I'm sure it was summer or September, I suppose it comes down to the 197s.
Alternatively they could have enough 197s to bin off the 170s and 175s which would surely helpPossibly by the end of September. There must be enough 197s by then in service to replace the current 4 or 5 average amount of 175s in service daily. Keeping the 3 of the 170s until October or November will also help.
001's been moved to Holyhead with 112 and 116 for storage to make more space at Chester.You say that but 001 and 009 are the only operational two cars, one three car is at Ilford and of the therefore fifteen operational 175s, they’re sending maybe three or four out a day max already.
That is probably the ideal scenario as I imagine TFW will want rid of both fleets as soon as they can. Keeping lots of small fleets isn't easy for maintenance etcAlternatively they could have enough 197s to bin off the 170s and 175s which would surely help
So I assume there won't be used for service? Any reason they couldn't alternate them with other sets between Holyhead and Chester so they could still visit Chester for maintenance as required? Could mean more in service overall.001's been moved to Holyhead with 112 and 116 for storage to make more space at Chester.
I've got no idea all I know is they were moved.That is probably the ideal scenario as I imagine TFW will want rid of both fleets as soon as they can. Keeping lots of small fleets isn't easy for maintenance etc
So I assume there won't be used for service? Any reason they couldn't alternate them with other sets between Holyhead and Chester so they could still visit Chester for maintenance as required? Could mean more in service overall.
Are none of these in use at the moment then?001's been moved to Holyhead with 112 and 116 for storage to make more space at Chester.
Unlikely.Are none of these in use at the moment then?
Even then 001 is now at Holyhead out of use and 009 hasn't moved from Canton for a few days.You say that but 001 and 009 are the only operational two cars, one three car is at Ilford and of the therefore fifteen operational 175s, they’re sending maybe three or four out a day max already.
Just the 2 cars have to be back with Angel at the end of August. The 3s won't be that far behind but it's not as restricted as the 2s.Are all 175s to be gone by the end of the Summer or just the 2 carriages? Are TFW confident enough 197s will be in service by the end of Summer/early September?
I think this just furthers my point.001's been moved to Holyhead with 112 and 116 for storage to make more space at Chester.
Might we know why it can’t be extended? I’d like to think it’s because the knackered, troublesome yet very loveable things have a future somewhere else (I know the discussion of who and where is speculative so we’ll leave that in its own thread) but of course no one’s announced anything, publicly anyway.The lease date ends then with it not being possible to extend so it's a moot point whether 197s filter through or not as they'll still have to hand the 175s back.
From what someone else said in another thread, I do understand they have a new home.I think this just furthers my point.
Might we know why it can’t be extended? I’d like to think it’s because the knackered, troublesome yet very loveable things have a future somewhere else (I know the discussion of who and where is speculative so we’ll leave that in its own thread) but of course no one’s announced anything, publicly anyway.