WMR Class 196 Build and Implementation

[Peter Sarf]

And why do the engines on the almost new 196s need changing? They're the same type as on the 195s

Oh crickey yes. I suspect the 197s should be in the frame soon.........!.

 

[Wyrleybart]

Aa a matter of interest, what is the situation with the 196s with regard to equipment for operating DCO / DOO ?

I seem to recall reports at the start of their delivery, saying that the 196s and 730s were built with the door panel controls plated over, having to be reinstated due to WMR not using the DCO method.

I wonder if 196007-012 are now being "remodified", to be made DCO capable for use by Chiltern crews on EWR?

 

[tomuk]

And why do the engines on the almost new 196s need changing? They're the same type as on the 195s

They shouldn't unless the 196s have already run up 500,000 miles which is the typical overhaul mileage of 158s\Turbos. I understand the Southern 171s engines rafts are overhauled almost every five years.

 

[AJDesiro]

They shouldn't unless the 196s have already run up 500,000 miles which is the typical overhaul mileage of 158s\Turbos. I understand the Southern 171s engines rafts are overhauled almost every five years.

The latest modern railways says that the unit mileage of the fleet is around 112,000.

 

[DavidGrain]

WMR Train Allocations shown on realtimetrains.co.uk from today

 

[The_Train]

WMR Train Allocations shown on realtimetrains.co.uk from today

They still have a few working trains to allocate then?

 

[Jamesrob637]

Are all of these now in service?

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Are all of these now in service?

The 196s are yeah.

 

[tfw756rider]

The 196s are yeah.

I know this is the WMR 196 thread, but isn't it only the 20 West Midlands Railway 196s that have been in service, with none of the 6 Chiltern / East West Rail 196s yet in service?

 

[JonathanH]

none of the 6 Chiltern / East West Rail 196s yet in service?

Those six all operated for WMR before being withdrawn for transfer.

 

[Pete_uk]

At least that should hopefully mean they have bedded in somewhat and should hit the ground running.

 

[Wyrleybart]

At least that should hopefully mean they have bedded in somewhat and should hit the ground running.

True, but are they having to be retro modified for DCO / DOO door controls if EWR is or isn't going to be DCO operated ?

 

[HLE]

No, it's all there as built, however the DOO screens were covered over and the system isolated. It's TBC what form of dispatch EWR will use.

 

[DavidGrain]

The 6 Class 196s also will be re-liveried according to Chiltern's announcement. I have seen reports that they are still in WMR livery a few days ago. This will be another delay in opening the Oxford - MKC route.
There has been no public mention of this but I am wondering if the question of DOO is causing another delay in bringing these back into public service. Bear in mind Chiltern operates DOO south of Banbury for all their trains except for the loco hauled.