Transfer of LNER HST 125s to East Midlands Railway (EMR)

[WesternLancer]

14:34 Stp to Notts
16:45 Notts to Stp
19:04 stp to Leeds

Took that in on a walk today - very nice to see. Very high standard of paintwork, and very smart and clean.

102 coming off tonight.

Is that just to rotate the power cars? ie it's not used every day.

 

[43 302]

Is that just to rotate the power cars? ie it's not used every day.

102 and 295 are going b2b from NL to Derby tomorrow for some filming. And 295 is not the cleanest apparently!

 

[WesternLancer]

102 and 295 are going b2b from NL to Derby tomorrow for some filming. And 295 is not the cleanest apparently!

Thanks. Whatever was on with 102 yesterday (I didn't take a note) looked a bit shabby I have to say- crying out for a lick of Blue and Grey to pair up with 102 - or maybe even more an EMR colour scheme!

 

[43055]

Thanks. Whatever was on with 102 yesterday (I didn't take a note) looked a bit shabby I have to say- crying out for a lick of Blue and Grey to pair up with 102 - or maybe even more an EMR colour scheme!

43102 was with 43274 on NL56.

 

[WesternLancer]

43102 was with 43274 on NL56.

Thanks

Incidentally - and I'm sure it will be in this thread somewhere, but if anyone can recall - when were the ex LNER sets supposed to have started with EMR - was it to be in time for the May 2020 timetable? And would that have been the whole fleet required at that time? or was it later than that. I've forgotten now.

 

[swt_passenger]

Thanks

Incidentally - and I'm sure it will be in this thread somewhere, but if anyone can recall - when were the ex LNER sets supposed to have started with EMR - was it to be in time for the May 2020 timetable? And would that have been the whole fleet required at that time? or was it later than that. I've forgotten now.

The EMR sets were originally end dated 28th July 2020. Presumably the idea was that that would be the last possible date, with the ex-LNER sets phased in gradually before hand.

I got that from Modern Railways, Feb 2020, post #132...

 

[WesternLancer]

The EMR sets were originally end dated 28th July 2020. Presumably the idea was that that would be the last possible date, with the ex-LNER sets phased in gradually before hand.

I got that from Modern Railways, Feb 2020, post #132...

Thanks - that's helpful.

 

[aquae39]

Is it confirmed the last EMR HST operating on 15 May before timetable change?

 

[fgwrich]

Is it confirmed the last EMR HST operating on 15 May before timetable change?

I’ve not yet seen anything that suggest otherwise. Though I feel we’ll still be in for another big surprise before they go.

 

[WesternLancer]

Is it confirmed the last EMR HST operating on 15 May before timetable change?

It was a few weeks ago that I looked but I noted an absence of Advance tickets on what would be HST diagrammed services on the 14th and thought it is probably not a co-incidence. Although sats (15th) are days when HSTs don't always run it seems, so another aspect to be aware of.

 

[aquae39]

I’ve not yet seen anything that suggest otherwise. Though I feel we’ll still be in for another big surprise before they go.

It was a few weeks ago that I looked but I noted an absence of Advance tickets on what would be HST diagrammed services on the 14th and thought it is probably not a co-incidence. Although sats (15th) are days when HSTs don't always run it seems, so another aspect to be aware of.

Alright thanks, let's see if there are any updates

 

[yorksrob]

Is it confirmed that the HST's will be gone in May ?

I'm booking in early June and would prefer one if they were still running.

 

[LowLevel]

Is it confirmed that the HST's will be gone in May ?

I'm booking in early June and would prefer one if they were still running.

No chance of them running beyond the end of May I believe.

 

[yorksrob]

No chance of them running beyond the end of May I believe.

Thanks for the confirmation.

Still, at least I can book without FOMO

 

[Mugby]

If they've all gone by the end of May, won't that leave a shortage of suitable sets for the London services?

 

[Mainline421]

If they've all gone by the end of May, won't that leave a shortage of suitable sets for the London services?

The 360s will cover Corby services releasing more 222s for the rest.

 

[spotify95]

If they've all gone by the end of May, won't that leave a shortage of suitable sets for the London services?

No, because the 360s will cover Corby, so they only need 4 trains per hour to be covered by the existing diesel fleet. That then allows EMR to get rid of the HSTs and keep the 222 and 180 diesels.

So in short, no there will not be any rolling stock shortages.

 

[mic505]

No, because the 360s will cover Corby, so they only need 4 trains per hour to be covered by the existing diesel fleet. That then allows EMR to get rid of the HSTs and keep the 222 and 180 diesels.

So in short, no there will not be any rolling stock shortages.

And reduces the turnaround times at St Pancras and Nottingham, significantly for the diesel stock.

 

[Skymonster]

So in short, no there will not be any rolling stock shortages.

Just the peak summer Saturday Skeggy services to worry about then!

With UK vacations looking likely to be more popular than ever this year, and [I believe] the 222s and 180s not cleared to Skeggy, how the demand is handled could be interesting.

 

[richardderby]

Just the peak summer Saturday Skeggy services to worry about then!

With UK vacations looking likely to be more popular than ever this year, and [I believe] the 222s and 180s not cleared to Skeggy, how the

demand is handled could be interesting.

See here

Skegness 2021 replacement for usual hst sets

is there any news what EMR are planning this summer, as the HST service finished for good in September 2020. I understand EMR are planning to increase the timetabled service, but will 222 trains operate over the route this year. with a large increase again in summer staycations, I imagine the...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[Wolfie]

No, because the 360s will cover Corby, so they only need 4 trains per hour to be covered by the existing diesel fleet. That then allows EMR to get rid of the HSTs and keep the 222 and 180 diesels.

So in short, no there will not be any rolling stock shortages.

If they are depending on the 180s there will be shortages.....

 

[FirstclassHST]

Is it confirmed that the HST's will be gone in May ?

I'm booking in early June and would prefer one if they were still running.

I contacted Porterbrook to ask about the EMR HST fleet and they told me the fleet was coming off lease in may

 

[HST43257]

I contacted Porterbrook to ask about the EMR HST fleet and they told me the fleet was coming off lease in may

The dft dispensation ends on 31st May I believe

 

[swt_passenger]

I contacted Porterbrook to ask about the EMR HST fleet and they told me the fleet was coming off lease in may

Didn’t you believe the previous explanations in this thread then?

 

[FirstclassHST]

The dft dispensation ends on 31st May I believe

I think so too

Didn’t you believe the previous explanations in this thread then?

I did just wanted to confirm it as well

 

[43096]

I contacted Porterbrook to ask about the EMR HST fleet and they told me the fleet was coming off lease in may

Have you asked Angel about their vehicles, just to be sure?

 

[yorksrob]

I contacted Porterbrook to ask about the EMR HST fleet and they told me the fleet was coming off lease in may

Ah well. It looks as though I'll be using EMT anyway due to the KX closures. The 222's are nice enough, I seem to recall.

 

[FirstclassHST]

Ah well. It looks as though I'll be using EMT anyway due to the KX closures. The 222's are nice enough, I seem to recall.

Fair enough I haven’t been on a train for a while due to covid

 

[Impey0711]

222's still look modern but seats are worn and hard

Booked on the 14:34 this coming Tuesday probably be one of my last HST journeys

 

[Skymonster]

43274 being painted at NL

https://twitter.com/EuanSteuart/status/1380443038204506113?s=20