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James Anderson has been hit with a rather serious Level 3 charge for shoving Jadeja during the first match. A Level 3 charge carries a minimum of two Tests or four ODIs and a maximum of twice that if found guilty.
The curse of the last wicket partnership has even affected Australia - Yadav and Bumrah put on 82 for India A to overtake Australia A's score and reach 501 (Lyon 0-147)...the two unofficial tests have produced some high scores - so far - what kind of pitch has Brisbane provided for these games, DownSouth?
No idea on the pitch, but it also produced huge scores in the first match, and the Australia A first innings in this one had a big late partnership of 133 for the eighth wicket being put on by two specialist bowlers. This is at Brisbane's second ground of Allan Border Field (Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney also have ODI-standard alternate grounds) and not the Gabba though, so it's not the same place as where Mitchell Johnson destroyed England last year.

It's good to see Chadd Sayers doing well, he took the first five wickets in a row!

A first class match is not an "unofficial Test" just because ESPN like to call it that, please stop copying them!

Edit: the "not at the Gabba" bit is very important. All the major grounds in Australia have infamously independent curators who will produce the pitch they want and never bow down to the game's administrators. Kevin Mitchell Jr (the Gabba) is well known for having spotters outside the ground and bringing the covers on just before it starts raining even if the umpires haven't yet asked him!
 
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James Anderson has been hit with a rather serious Level 3 charge for shoving Jadeja during the first match. A Level 3 charge carries a minimum of two Tests or four ODIs and a maximum of twice that if found guilty.

A counter charge against Jajeda has also been made by England, as the incident was said to have been instigated by him.

The incident is said to have occurred immediately after both the teams had left the field of play for the lunch period on the second day of the Test Match.
 
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A counter charge against Jajeda has also been made by England, as the incident was said to have been instigated by him.
Have they actually laid the charge yet and confirmed what level it will be? All the ESPN article mentions is that they would be considering one.

I can see the ICC wanting to make an example of both of them and giving them the maximum penalty before the series gets out of hand. Anderson has no place getting physical with another player, even if (like it was when he raised his bat and charged Geroge Bailey) the other player has successfully wound him up, and he should get a long ban for it.

This will hurt England a lot more than India, because Anderson has no viable replacement but India will be forced to bring in R Ashwin who is at least Jadeja's equal with the ball and also handy with the bat - he scored a fair few during the whitewash that Australia won by 34 wickets and 525 runs.
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Sad news for Test cricket - Mahela Jayawardene is retiring.

He probably won't be thought of in the same league as Tendulkar, Lara, Ponting, Kallis and Warne, but he's still a genuine great of the last generation and it would be hard to think of Sri Lanka without him in the team.
 

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What a close finish. Lancashire had taken nine of the ten Nottinghamshire second innings wickets, but Nottinghamshire just managed to get the required runs to win.

Yep. On the points front a shame for Somerset. I listened to the last two sessions of Northants v Somerset and was getting a bit worried that Northants were going to make the run chase and win, or at least bat out a draw. Lower order played well and Northants came up just 52 runs shy of the 404 run target with time and overs left in the day. Still, Somerset racked up 23 out of a possible 24 points.

After that closer than should've been finish I switched to Lancs v Notts and listened to that exciting finish. Praying for Lancs to skittle Notts for less than the 170 required. So close. Lancs losing by just one wicket. Big difference between Notts getting 21 points and just 5 had they lost.

Come Saturday I shall be cheering on Middlesex at Scarborough, hoping Yorkshire score as few points as possible.

Somerset have never won the County Championship and I really don't want 2014 to be yet another 'nearly' year.
 

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Seems like a minor incident that has been blown up out of all proportion and a ploy by India to try and get our best bowler out of the series.

Jimmy has strongly denied the charges.

Sad news for Test cricket that Mahela Jayawardene is retiring.

He probably won't be thought of in the same league as Gooch, Gower, Botham and Pietersen but he's still a genuine great of the last generation and it would be hard to think of Sri Lanka without him in the team
 
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Recalling Kerrigan is, IMO, a mistake. As masters of spin, the Indian batsmen could well target him at Lords (assuming he gets selected to play) and psychologically damage him by batting him out of the attack. After his debut against Oz last summer, another mauling wouldn't do him much good.
I would have thought that there are other spin bowlers ahead in the queue in front of Kerrigan, such as Rashid (Yorks), Briggs (Hamps), Borthwick (Durham) and Tredwell (Kent). I don't think Panesar will play for England again, due to his 'toilet' habits(!) and his inconsistancy. Is Gary Keedy still playing? He used to have some amazing bowling figures. Even though he was only given one over at Trent Bridge, I thought Gary Ballance got more turn out of the pitch than anyone else, even though his line & length was all over the place.
 

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The Jimmy/Jadeja incident I guess actually goes back to the start of the final over before lunch having looked back at the Beeb's text commentary.

If there was an incident, then surely Mr Murdoch's cameras would have caught it as there is normally a camera focused on the pavilion steps isn't there?
 

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Recalling Kerrigan is, IMO, a mistake. As masters of spin, the Indian batsmen could well target him at Lords (assuming he gets selected to play) and psychologically damage him by batting him out of the attack. After his debut against Oz last summer, another mauling wouldn't do him much good.
I agree. He needs a couple more years at domestic level (including southern hemisphere seasons in Sydney First Grade or Victorian Premier Cricket) before making a more planned 'second debut' against a lightweight international team like New Zealand or the West Indies, let him build up some confidence and experience before putting him up against a tougher team.

Apparently the pitch at Lord's is looking very green, so England may well be better off to go with their strengths and pick four seamers who can get movement and force the Indians to play the rising ball, with the part-time option of Root in the mix just to take pace off the ball at the other end during four over spells of fiery strike bowling by Broad. If Cook is brave enough to watch some videos from last summer over here, he would see that Mitchell Johnson was at his most powerful when Lyon was keeping them tied down at the other end.
I would have thought that there are other spin bowlers ahead in the queue in front of Kerrigan, such as Rashid (Yorks), Briggs (Hamps), Borthwick (Durham) and Tredwell (Kent).
Of those options, I'd probably rate Tredwell as the best short-term option for now. He's relatively benign, but good enough to tie down one end so long as bowling all-rounders like Stokes and Broad are chipping in with the bat.

Rashid played for South Australia in T20 a few years ago, he performed fairly well but went under the radar a bit thanks to the Trinidadian superstar Kieron Pollard being the other international import. I was very impressed with his competitive spirit and good performance opening the bowling, the first might be transferable to Test cricket but the second obviously wouldn't.

The selection of Rashid could have good strategic implications for cricket in England, helping reach out to the kids of Pakistani migrants who might otherwise grow up cheering on Pakistan only.

He probably won't be thought of in the same league as … Pietersen …
Very true, Mahela would probably wish he could have caused as much damage to the English cricket team as Pietersen did.
 

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Oh I don't know. I loved the damage he did to the ball and chain brigade from 2005 - 13.
Won 9 matches, lost 11, and scored at an average three runs lower than his career average. It appears he may have had some impact though, in that time Australia's win/loss ratio against England was lowered to a miserable 1.22, compared to 1.31 for all time.
 

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Never forget his knock at the Oval in 2005. A joy to watch - especially the faces of the Australian supporters.
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I agree. He needs a couple more years at domestic level (including southern hemisphere seasons in Sydney First Grade or Victorian Premier Cricket) .

Why would he benefit from playing in Australian village cricket ? Admittedly his "sledging" and bad sportsmanship would improve (or deteriorate depending on your point of view) but as far as his bowling goes he might as well stay at home and play in the Ribblesdale League.
 

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A first class match is not an "unofficial Test" just because ESPN like to call it that, please stop copying them!

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Whatever. Actually I'm surprised that these matches aren't marketed more effectively. I went to one day of the Eng 'A' v Aus 'A' match at Old Trafford a couple of years ago, some good young players on both sides on show yet very little advertising and so a pitiful crowd for a good day of cricket. But there we are!
As for the Anderson/Jadeja spat, strange that it has taken five days for it to come out.
 

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Well....all depends on what Mick Hunt & his team produce, Mick always likes to keep it quiet.


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I think Lords is usually flat and gets flatter? Anyway England have 4 part-time spinners now. Ali, Root, Ballance & Cook!
 

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It is apparently very flat but also very green.
England have won the toss and, will field. I believe that of the last ten Lord's tests, the team that has batted first has won, so Cook must have real faith in this wicket.
 
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So green it looks like my lawn, except without the frayed edges, weeds and the ants nest!
 

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India 151-7 after 60 overs

Anderson made his usual breakthrough with an early wicket and currently has figures of 17-7-26-3.
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India 290-9....Ciose of play

The usual lack of a killer punch by England. The first 145 runs scored were at the cost of 7 wickets. The next 145 runs were scored were at the loss of only 2 more wickets..<(

Heaven help us if a large last-wicket stand occurs.....again..:roll:
 
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England bowled like a drain in the first session, were brilliant in the second and poor in the third. Plunkett again bowled far too short but Moeen had a very good spell and the young Indian lad played brilliantly for his century.

India will be pleased because 200 looked a good score for them at one stage. England still not taking advantage when they have the upper hand.
 

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Why did England start bowling well, but then let India off the hook?.......They just seem to lose focus.

Perhaps a reaction to the way that Captain Cook put his "cunning plan" into action once the seventh wicket had fallen..<(
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Anyway. India were all out early on the second day for 295.

England had the opportunity to have a Captain Cook led reply to prove his assertion that he is the man for the job....England now 49-2

Cook out for 10...Robson out for 17...both of them c Dhoni b Kumar
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England 214-6...latest score

Balance has just been dismissed for 110

Kumar 22-9-44-4
 
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England battled back well to 210-4 but the loss of 2 late wickets has swung it back towards India. Batting looked hard work today and we were never on top of the bowling. Ballance has the temperament for the Test cricket even if his technique isn't the best. Bell continues to disappoint me - as a senior player now he should be taking the lead and imposing himself more on games.
 

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England battled back well to 210-4 but the loss of 2 late wickets has swung it back towards India. Batting looked hard work today and we were never on top of the bowling. Ballance has the temperament for the Test cricket even if his technique isn't the best. Bell continues to disappoint me - as a senior player now he should be taking the lead and imposing himself more on games.

The 'experts' have certainly read the pitch/conditions incorrectly, it was supposed to get easier today! (or was it poor English batting or good Indian bowling?)
Buneshwar Kumar joins a list of relatively unknown overseas bowlers who have prospered in English conditions. As he was bowling at well under 80mph for much of the time, it made me wonder why he does so well. Surely England batsmen face similar 'county trundlers' on a regular basis? England always seem to select bowlers who can bowl 85mph+, perhaps there is a case for picking bowlers of lesser speed but who can display good control. 'Horses for courses', I suppose.
 

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England battled back well to 210-4 but the loss of 2 late wickets has swung it back towards India. Batting looked hard work today and we were never on top of the bowling. Ballance has the temperament for the Test cricket even if his technique isn't the best. Bell continues to disappoint me - as a senior player now he should be taking the lead and imposing himself more on games.

I'm not disagreeing with you at all but these comments about Ballance and his technique have been doing the rounds for some time now

His stats tell a rather different story though, if you take all his First Class, List A and 20/20 innings combined, today was his 233rd innings which have brought a total of 29 hundreds and 46 fifties, passing fifty 75 times out of 233 seems to me to be pretty good going and I dare say there are many players who would like to be able to boast the same success

I for one hope that he manages to tighten up his technique so that we see him score some real runs, while keeping out of pubs and night clubs ...

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England 319 all out

Plunkett 55 not out and Anderson 19 put on 39 for the last wicket, leaving England with a first innings lead of 24.

An interesting comparison on the number of runs scored in this test series to date by the England number 1 and the number 11 batsmen.
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I note that that the I.C.C. have rated the Trent Bridge pitch that was prepared for the first Test Match as "poor",
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India 342 all out (2nd innings)
Vijay 95
Jajeda 68
Kumar 52

Stokes 3-51
Plunkett 3-65

England 105-4 (2nd innings)

The middle-order slump decided to move up the order today as England, from a good position of 70-1 to a bad position of 72-4...<(
 
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England now looking at another defeat. Cook cannot last much longer surely.
 

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