Cloud Strife
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The question is, how many of those 12m (or indeed the many other multi-millions of votes) were actually pro-Biden, and how many were simply anti-Trump? There is a difference.
It's a very good question. I suspect that the anti-Trump vote was particularly strong in southern suburban areas, where people were disgusted personally with Trump. I'm thinking about Georgia again, although we saw it in North Carolina as well. Arizona was also another place where the suburban voters turned on Trump, especially with his behaviour towards John McCain after his death.
If you want to get down and dirty with the analytics and maybe quit edging on conspiracy there is a wide selection of sites you can visit to understand what actually happened both in terms of vote count per state and how those votes panned out over the course of the election.
There's a lot of interesting things that added up to Trump's loss. For instance, in Arizona, Trump's abuse of John McCain almost certainly cost him the state. It wasn't one individual thing, but rather a set of individual circumstances, just like how Clinton lost in 2016 because of her ignoring the Rust Belt voters and their individual issues.
It can't be denied that there was a huge anti-Trump vote that turned out as well, especially in places like Philadelphia. Yet in PA, you also saw Trump underperforming in rural districts compared to 2016.
Musk can’t run for President. He was born in South Africa.
Oof, of course! Well, Bezos then
A classic example of why it is so difficult to reason with someone who is of a conspiratorial mindset - extreme confirmation bias. Anything that contradicts the conspiracy is automatically written off since the source is clearly "in" on it.
I would actually like to hear their opinion on why Trump lost. For instance, what happened in Wisconsin?
Somehow I think we won't get an answer