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Tetchytyke
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It's a bit of both. If people shopped more ethically then the exploitation would stop. There's an interesting moral aspect to spending £350 on something made in a sweat shop, although I don't judge people who do so.
It's increasingly difficult to shop ethically, and shops try to disguise it. I bought an overcoat in M&S proudly and prominently made from Yorkshire tweed; whilst the tweed may have been from Yorkshire, the coat was assembled in Myanmar.
It wasn't a personal comment, it was a wider observation about the ethics of fashion. To clarify, the distasteful bit is a company paying someone pence to manufacture an item they sell for hundreds, not a person buying it.
WizCastro197
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Some even less. It is a shame this happens and more awareness needs to be spread especially when clothes are bought
You raise a very good point.
I think they were just meaning to reply specifically to the £100 part. The second part can apply to anyone regardless what brand or cost.
Bletchleyite
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The outdoor brand I mostly go for is Berghaus, though not everything I've got from them is clothing, I've got all sorts. Generally in the days before they were taken over by a lifestyle brand they were one of the best but still affordable, though some of their kit is still pretty good. TNF I find to be very expensive for what it is because it's become popular as a lifestyle brand - the premium outdoor brands these days are to me Arcteryx and Mammut - you'll probably pay £400+ for one of their Gore Tex jackets, but it will last you 10+ years and perform superbly while being lightweight. I also tend to find TNF to be relatively skinny fit (while I am outdoorsy I am NOT skinny), and it annoys me that the fleeces have or had the zip on the wrong side (so they can zip into the jackets, but I still don't like it).
Talking of Berghaus, I did buy their classic Trango Extrem Gore Tex jacket age 15 having saved up paper round and birthday money for it, it was about £240, which probably is £500ish now, but I got 15 years out of it, the first 5 or so involving wearing it most days because they were really trendy in school at the time, and the first 10 it being my main hiking jacket. I liked to show off that mine went up mountains and theirs didn't! But I think that does show that with outdoor gear if you pay a lot you do get good kit. Berghaus back then was I think still owned by the LD Mountain Centre in Newcastle who started it with high hopes to compete with the likes of Mammut, hence the made-up German brand! FWIW ten years later I bought a Mera Peak (almost the same jacket) for £200 and the quality was notably reduced, e.g. plastic press studs and zip instead of metal, and that didn't last quite as long. Today's parallel to the original Berghaus is probably Alpkit, I reckon, though that started as an online supplier that contracted Chinese manufacture and then ended up expanding into bricks and mortar stores and UK manufacture of some items later.
I've also got several pairs of Adidas shorts. When I was a student I tended to wear Adidas Campus trainers so there might be a connection to that. My feet took a long time to stop growing, though, so while I was size 11 back then I'm actually 14 now and so have to go with what I can get!
Not a lot else of what I have is branded. My T-shirts are mostly either plain or souvenir running race T-shirts, hoodies I tend to get from Scout activities etc, and work shirts are generic.
Talking of Berghaus, I did buy their classic Trango Extrem Gore Tex jacket age 15 having saved up paper round and birthday money for it, it was about £240, which probably is £500ish now, but I got 15 years out of it, the first 5 or so involving wearing it most days because they were really trendy in school at the time, and the first 10 it being my main hiking jacket. I liked to show off that mine went up mountains and theirs didn't! But I think that does show that with outdoor gear if you pay a lot you do get good kit. Berghaus back then was I think still owned by the LD Mountain Centre in Newcastle who started it with high hopes to compete with the likes of Mammut, hence the made-up German brand! FWIW ten years later I bought a Mera Peak (almost the same jacket) for £200 and the quality was notably reduced, e.g. plastic press studs and zip instead of metal, and that didn't last quite as long. Today's parallel to the original Berghaus is probably Alpkit, I reckon, though that started as an online supplier that contracted Chinese manufacture and then ended up expanding into bricks and mortar stores and UK manufacture of some items later.
I've also got several pairs of Adidas shorts. When I was a student I tended to wear Adidas Campus trainers so there might be a connection to that. My feet took a long time to stop growing, though, so while I was size 11 back then I'm actually 14 now and so have to go with what I can get!
Not a lot else of what I have is branded. My T-shirts are mostly either plain or souvenir running race T-shirts, hoodies I tend to get from Scout activities etc, and work shirts are generic.
youngiecj
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Into the football casual scene (mainly the clothes) so for me CP company, Lacoste, Aquascutum, Fred Perry etc.. Collect Adidas trainers as well, well over 20 pairs now!
Bletchleyite
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If you don't mind blank colours (which can still be fashionable) Gildan are a good manufacturer for things like tees and hoodies. They're the main supplier to companies that print/embroider stuff (almost all those ubiquitous school leavers' hoodies with the year on the back will be made by them for instance), but they're good quality, dirt cheap and available in about 20 colours and sizes from extra small up to something like 4XL. Tons of companies will sell you blank ones on Ebay etc. I recently bought two hoodies for just £15 a pop and from experience of the same brand with Scout event printing on they'll last ages.
WizCastro197
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Oh thank you.
Yes I did feel £150 was a little pricey considering it was just a red hoody, no brand etc.
They seem good, I have just had a quick look. I wasn’t able to find prices as it said no distributor available or something similar.
telstarbox
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I've found some good Fred Perry and Pretty Green bargains on eBay recently - maybe PG is a bit old hat now?
Adidas Originals trainers last ages and aren't as ugly as some of the other stuff out there.
Bletchleyite
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Oh thank you.
Yes I did feel £150 was a little pricey considering it was just a red hoody, no brand etc.
They seem good, I have just had a quick look. I wasn’t able to find prices as it said no distributor available or something similar.
Just search "gildan heavyweight hoodie" on Ebay, there are loads of companies selling them. Pick the cheapest I guess, it's the same product. The only risk you really take is that Hermes will chuck it over your neighbour's fence onto their compost heap instead of delivering it to your door, but that's true with most clothing vendors online. (Beware some claim they use Royal Mail but actually don't - read feedback before ordering if that's important to you!)
lxfe_mxtterz
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Personally, I rather like the range of clothing available in Stumper & Fielding (Notting Hill, London).
Have built up quite a nice collection of tweed jackets from them. I'm incredibly fussy when it comes to the fit of clothing - it's almost impossible to find something I'm satisfied with the fit of - but everything I've bought there has fit me perfectly. Lovely quality, and service too for that matter.
Also find it incredibly difficult to resist another Schoffel Oakham gilet too (especially if you're lucky enough to catch one on sale!) The one I've had for a good few years now still looks and feels practically brand new despite being worn at least a few times a week.
Have built up quite a nice collection of tweed jackets from them. I'm incredibly fussy when it comes to the fit of clothing - it's almost impossible to find something I'm satisfied with the fit of - but everything I've bought there has fit me perfectly. Lovely quality, and service too for that matter.
Also find it incredibly difficult to resist another Schoffel Oakham gilet too (especially if you're lucky enough to catch one on sale!) The one I've had for a good few years now still looks and feels practically brand new despite being worn at least a few times a week.
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Wilts Wanderer
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I’ve never been interested in brands for the sake of it, as a rule. Whatever is most practical / comfy / reasonably priced.
That being said, I did spend £200 on a full length black leather trenchcoat when I was at university. There was a practical element, in that it was intended to make me look scary(ish) to reduce the risk of being mugged at night. And nowadays I’m rather partial to Weird Fish T-shirts.
That being said, I did spend £200 on a full length black leather trenchcoat when I was at university. There was a practical element, in that it was intended to make me look scary(ish) to reduce the risk of being mugged at night. And nowadays I’m rather partial to Weird Fish T-shirts.
I really do have to ask if you're receiving promotional consideration for this.
Best money I've spent on a coat so far was the police-surplus Gore-Tex one with quilted lining for sixteen quid
Smashing!For me, its buying and selling Highland Wear, kilts, sporrans jackets. A decent wool kilt can fetch up to £450, but bargains are to be had on ebay for around £150. Not to everyone's choice, but aside from Canada Goose and North Face coats and Levis jeans, my sartorial choice for functions if the occasion calls to dress up a little like a wedding or other formal event
TT-ONR-NRN
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That's brilliant; I love that. I wouldn't have expected kilts to cost £450! Are they comfortable?For me, its buying and selling Highland Wear, kilts, sporrans jackets. A decent wool kilt can fetch up to £450, but bargains are to be had on ebay for around £150. Not to everyone's choice, but aside from Canada Goose and North Face coats and Levis jeans, my sartorial choice for functions if the occasion calls to dress up a little like a wedding or other formal event
Russel
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I simply cannot understand why anyone would spend £350 on a coat.
I used to buy Superdry hoodies and t-shirts, but as with most mainstream fashion brands, everything they have produced over the last couple of years has just looked awful.
I used to buy Superdry hoodies and t-shirts, but as with most mainstream fashion brands, everything they have produced over the last couple of years has just looked awful.
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I'm not one for brands at all. My current favourite hoody is from Lidl!
The rest of my wardrobe is from supermarkets, Primark, or H&M. I've recently discovered Decathlon and the walking trousers and shoes I've got from there are really good, so I'll probably look there in future.
The only "brand" item I have are a pair of Adidas trainers because they fit comfier than slippers and make my tiny feet look bigger than they are. I'm on my second pair since 2018 and will probably get another pair cheap on eBay when I see one come up, the sizing runs a bit big so they come up barely worn fairly often.
The rest of my wardrobe is from supermarkets, Primark, or H&M. I've recently discovered Decathlon and the walking trousers and shoes I've got from there are really good, so I'll probably look there in future.
The only "brand" item I have are a pair of Adidas trainers because they fit comfier than slippers and make my tiny feet look bigger than they are. I'm on my second pair since 2018 and will probably get another pair cheap on eBay when I see one come up, the sizing runs a bit big so they come up barely worn fairly often.
birchesgreen
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All my jeans (black natch) are M&S. My jumpers are mostly Primark these days or Tu, all i care about is if they have stripes or not. My feet tend to be covered in Converse's fine products.
Thats been my "uniform" for the last 20 years or so and probably until the day i die.
Thats been my "uniform" for the last 20 years or so and probably until the day i die.
I like Rohan clothes. They have a range of styles, some of which look like you have just stepped off a mountain, but others that are less showy.
They use hard wearing fabrics, which are machine washable, very fast to dry, and don't need ironing. They are great for traveling, as you can hand wash them, roll them in a towel and hang it up, and it will be dry in a few hours. They have plenty of pockets, some of which are zipped.The trousers have a hidden zipped pocket, where you can keep a passport securely.
The downside is that they can be expensive.
Once I have found something that I like, then I'll set up an eBay search for it, for the specific size, and style that I want, with a price filter. Then I'll get an email when something matches, so I can get a shirt for £20 which would have been 3 times as much when new. It means I can get exactly the same size and style to the ones that I've already got, even if they are a few years old.
They use hard wearing fabrics, which are machine washable, very fast to dry, and don't need ironing. They are great for traveling, as you can hand wash them, roll them in a towel and hang it up, and it will be dry in a few hours. They have plenty of pockets, some of which are zipped.The trousers have a hidden zipped pocket, where you can keep a passport securely.
The downside is that they can be expensive.
Once I have found something that I like, then I'll set up an eBay search for it, for the specific size, and style that I want, with a price filter. Then I'll get an email when something matches, so I can get a shirt for £20 which would have been 3 times as much when new. It means I can get exactly the same size and style to the ones that I've already got, even if they are a few years old.
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birchesgreen
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I forgot about jackets, i was a North Face guy for years but recently bought a Trespass jacket and like it a lot so will probably stick with them next time i need one (cheaper as well).
cactustwirly
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Their men's range is the same size as Topman (when they still had stores) and Primark etc.
I don't know anywhere where the women's range isn't bigger than the mens....
New look is mostly women's clothes but they sell men's onl9
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Lyle & Scott, Pringle, Outdoor Knitwear, J Pick & Sons and M&S for Pure wool Jerseys / Pullovers.
M&S for underwear.
M&S for underwear.
So you’ve over a grand worth of 2022 coats. You’ve clearly got more money than sense whilst there’s a cost of living crisis going on! But if you’ve got it to waste then why not.
To answer the original question. Most of my clothing is from Next or Sainsburys as I find as a larger person the fit is good, and washes well, without spending silly money.
I have a good quality coat from Mountain Warehouse which serves its purpose very well. I think it was around £50-60 12-18 months back. Likewise my back pack for work came from Mountain warehouse and has served me well for the amount of use it gets.
Primark i find quality poor and doesn’t wash well, but I’ve a couple of £2 t shirts i wear for dirty jobs and working days at the bus preservation group, they dont matter if they get ruined. They’ll be used as rags eventually at that price without worrying.
Bletchleyite
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£350 on a technical Gore Tex jacket if you spend every weekend in the hills including winter is probably a sensible investment. Outside of the lifestyle brands you do get what you pay for in outdoor gear. At that price point you'll get something that'll be lightweight, robust and will last 10+ years of sustained frequent use. The jacket you get for £50-£100 at Go Outdoors or Millets will be waterproof to a point and you'll be replacing it every year or two, that part of the market is designed for people who go to the Lakes once a year in summer, and for kids who grow out of them and have to replace frequently anyway.
As a fashion jacket I can't see why you would either, but everyone has their luxury I guess, e.g. I have a rather expensive laptop but could make do with a cheaper one. The big puffas like these are very much a fashion item - "outdoorsy" down jackets are usually designed to be much less bulky, as the bulk is a bit impractical to e.g. put a waterproof over the top. (Layering is key in outdoor activity wear). For instance I've got an Alpkit one that is almost as thin as a fleece but feels really warm down to below zero. Technical jackets as thick as the fashion puffas would be way too warm for UK conditions - their role is for things like climbing Everest where it gets REALLY cold - but they also cost a lot more than £350!
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youngiecj
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Pretty Green are great forgot about them, slightly more affordable as well!
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Another shout for Rohan,when I spent a lot of times on wet and windy hilly terrain I found there gear lightweight ,quick to dry and easy to wash and wear !
Good to see Spoke getting a mention. I also swear by them. Not cheap, but hard-wearing and they fit lovely.
I've always liked Kent and Curwen - they went under last year, and I bought about a dozen pieces of distressed stock for very little on the secondary market just after that happened.
Lacoste is another brand I really like. I've got a Moose Knuckles winter bomber jacket which is insanely warm.
£150? For Superdry? Are you sure?
No Stone Island? What kind of casual are you? Lol
youngiecj
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Ha ha Don't like the fit! Although I always think if I wear that it just says you're a T**T!
Bletchleyite
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My body shape changes too much for a tailored fit to work...I tend to get a lot podgier in winter when heavy food is more appealing and exercise outdoors less appealing!
DarloRich
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Correct - it is just effete posing by vacuous people who think thier worth as an individual is measured by what silly badge they wear on thier clothing.
In a previous life I had a number of bespoke suits for work. They were excellent quality, superb material, made by hand, to my measurements and ( if I paid full price) would have cost easily as much if not more, as a fancy designer effort and I used to laugh at people in designer suits that cost a fortune and looked awful.
Now I just buy suits of the internet. I don't need as many these days so it isn't worth the cost.
Spot on
Personally I have always found CK pants to be uncomfortable and not ,erm, supportive in the gentleman area.
Is the quality really worth the price differential to non branded outfits? I am not sure but you do have a nice large logo to parade so each to their own.
Not when it is windy ( and you have gone fully Scottish!)
is Stone Island not a bit Green Street/Wannabe hoolie/show the badge these days?
TT-ONR-NRN
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It was you who I was thinking of when I put that, I cannot lie
I’m glad I got it spot on.I agree designer suits look awful at the best of times.
I actually use Primark and Sainsburys for a lot of things, sometimes if I need cheap jeans or cargos for a night out or something last minute, and I bulk buy the white Umbro socks that Primark have now started selling as they’re cheaper and last longer than the Nike ones.
Yes I rather like Lacoste. I have one top and one cap by them and they’re rather nice. Not my usual cup of tea but I wear them every now and then.
Bletchleyite
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The problem with "Primani" is that it's disposable fashion. It probably is best buying higher end fashion than that as at least it might be worn more than once.
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