GWR Class 165/166 Turbo Diagrams

[PHILIPE]

Anyone know if there are any about on Exmouth Paignton today?

158951 is working it's job today

 

[Apedlar12]

Thanks for the gen

No problem

 

[RPI]

158951 is working it's job today

Tell me about it, 0730 down to Paignton was rammed leaving Teignmouth with me stuck in the middle of the front coach lol, 158's really don't suit busy stop-start school trains!

 

[superalbs]

Any about on Exmouth Paignton today? Thanks.

 

[Melancholia]

Any about on Exmouth Paignton today? Thanks.

Unfortunately not, again... hmm...

 

[superalbs]

Unfortunately not, again... hmm...

Hadn't thought so, saw a 2 car 158 going to Exmouth about 1318.~

 

[Bow Fell]

158763 today.

1 x 150, 1 x 158/3 and 1 x 158/2 on the Barnstaples (not sure if that’s what booked to happen).

 

[PHILIPE]

158763 today.

1 x 150, 1 x 158/3 and 1 x 158/2 on the Barnstaples (not sure if that’s what booked to happen).

Barneys should be 3 x 158/9s

 

[Bow Fell]

166208 out today starting with 0608 Exeter-Exmouth, 0655 Exmouth-Paignton, 0840 Paignton-Exmouth etc.

 

[Apedlar12]

166208 out today starting with 0608 Exeter-Exmouth, 0655 Exmouth-Paignton, 0840 Paignton-Exmouth etc.

This was it's full diagram for today:

2F04 06:08 Exeter St Davids to Exmouth
2T07 06:55 Exmouth to Paignton
2F11 08:40 Paignton to Exmouth
2T14 10:24 Exmouth to Paignton
2F18 12:20 Paignton to Exmouth
2T21 13:56 Exmouth to Paignton
2F25 15:52 Paignton to Exmouth
2T28 17:27 Exmouth to Paignton
2F32 19:20 Paignton to Exmouth
2T35 20:58 Exmouth to Paignton
2A38 22:42 Paignton to Newton Abbot
2T38 23:02 Newton Abbot to Paignton
2E61 23:25 Paignton to Exeter St Davids

 

[sciisfun]

hey all, is there any chance of them making their way back down to Exmouth any time soon? or the diagrams that they are running if they're still coming down down the branch, keeping my eye out for them, but not seen them yet

 

[PHILIPE]

hey all, is there any chance of them making their way back down to Exmouth any time soon? or the diagrams that they are running if they're still coming down down the branch, keeping my eye out for them, but not seen them yet

They have been for the last month or so except for a couple of days. One comes down on 2308 Bristol to Exeter. then works Exmouth to Paignton runs all the next day finishing on 1950 Paignton to Exeter thence 2111 Exeter to Bristol TM.

 

[sciisfun]

They have been for the last month or so except for a couple of days. One comes down on 2308 Bristol to Exeter. then works Exmouth to Paignton runs all the next day finishing on 1950 Paignton to Exeter thence 2111 Exeter to Bristol TM.

thank you, just been getting unlucky then

 

[Sporty60]

thank you, just been getting unlucky then

Spotted it this week in blue livery.
Out of curiosity what proportion of the fleet still awaits the green livery please?

 

[Trainfan061193]

I have found out that apparently the plan is to have more 16x working in Devon & Cornwall to free up 158s to work around Bristol again.

 

[PHILIPE]

I have found out that apparently the plan is to have more 16x working in Devon & Cornwall to free up 158s to work around Bristol again.

Have you got a source for this as it is always preferable to separate facts and rumours. ? It is being discussed on the Pacer Withdrawal Thread.

 

[HamworthyGoods]

I have found out that apparently the plan is to have more 16x working in Devon & Cornwall to free up 158s to work around Bristol again.

16x will not operate in Cornwall, they are not cleared for operation there.

 

[PHILIPE]

16x will not operate in Cornwall, they are not cleared for operation there.

They could be though if gauge assessments were to be carried out

 

[Clarence Yard]

They could be though if gauge assessments were to be carried out

They have been - they still sit on my desk - and some of the interventions required did not look cheap, which is why the DfT said no at the time.

 

[Rich McLean]

The only thing that is happening is that the 158s released by 255 sets in Devon and Cornwall will cover Bristol area work, to release a couple 16x to work Devon metro so 150s are available for double formations on the Devon Metro and available for Cornish branching work. Barnstaple diagrams still down for 158s and you still see the odd 158 in Cornwall.

 

[PHILIPE]

The only thing that is happening is that the 158s released by 255 sets in Devon and Cornwall will cover Bristol area work, to release a couple 16x to work Devon metro so 150s are available for double formations on the Devon Metro and available for Cornish branching work. Barnstaple diagrams still down for 158s and you still see the odd 158 in Cornwall.

There should still be 3 x 158s in Cornwall but working singly whereas there were some pairs before.

 

[Rich McLean]

There should still be 3 x 158s in Cornwall but working singly whereas there were some pairs before.

There wasn't many pairs. A pair up in the morning peak to Exeter, and a pair from Plymouth to Penzance in the evening. Everything keeps changing at the moment.

 

[Apedlar12]

16x will not operate in Cornwall, they are not cleared for operation there.

I suppose there is the option for the Barney line to go over to 16x to allow a few 158/9s to move back up to Bristol in the near future if they do actually want more 158s back up there again...?

 

[MatthewRead]

I suppose there is the option for the Barney line to go over to 16x to allow a few 158/9s to move back up to Bristol in the near future if they do actually want more 158s back up there again...?

I think its to retain route knowledge.

 

[Jim]

I think its to retain route knowledge.

The units don't need route knowledge ?!

 

[Charlie Smythe]

Are there any 165/166’s actually allocated to Exeter, or are they still all allocated to SPM and just travel up/down to/from Bristol when necessary for maintenance etc.?

 

[PHILIPE]

Are there any 165/166’s actually allocated to Exeter, or are they still all allocated to SPM and just travel up/down to/from Bristol when necessary for maintenance etc.?

No. They are allocated to and maintained at the Marsh and diagrams cycle round via Exeter. Servicing would be done there and perhaps minor quick fix repairs carried out at Exeter if required

 

[Charlie Smythe]

No. They are allocated to and maintained at the Marsh and diagrams cycle round via Exeter. Servicing would be done there and perhaps minor quick fix repairs carried out at Exeter if required

Thank you. Is there plans for some of them to be allocated to Exeter at a later date, or will it remain 150’s and 158’s only?

 

[JN114]

Thank you. Is there plans for some of them to be allocated to Exeter at a later date, or will it remain 150’s and 158’s only?

I’d say it’s unlikely, even when the 165 3 cars eventually transfer West.

“Allocated” to a depot carries much less meaning these days. With enough servicing, minor exams available at other depots, units can stay away from “home” for weeks or even months at a time. I’d expect the West Turbo fleet to be “allocated” to PM, even if they pick up a larger share of work in the Exeter area.

 

[Charlie Smythe]

I’d say it’s unlikely, even when the 165 3 cars eventually transfer West.

“Allocated” to a depot carries much less meaning these days. With enough servicing, minor exams available at other depots, units can stay away from “home” for weeks or even months at a time. I’d expect the West Turbo fleet to be “allocated” to PM, even if they pick up a larger share of work in the Exeter area.

Interesting, thank you.

It makes sense really, Exeter is a little crowded with only 20 150/2’s and a few 158’s I think, although those at Exeter do run an efficient operation and seems to manage just fine even with the limited space available.