London Northwestern Class 730s

[the sniper]

730002 testing somewhere between Stafford and Rugby. Full credit given where due

Rugeley Trent Valley, taken from the Up platform.

 

[DavidGrain]

I saw it going through Sandwell and Dudley this afternoon. Sorry did not get a good photograph.

 

[DanielTheEMid]

I have just seen a video and they are getting Kiel seats

 

[childwallblues]

Rugeley Trent Valley, taken from the Up platform.

730002 testing between Crewe-Liverpool Lime Street-Stoke-on-Trent-Birmingham New Street.

 

[Domh245]

anybody know the coach formation numbers
TIA
colin

Based on the video in post 393, and picture on flickr that shows the other driving vehicle of 730002 being 494002, I'd hazard a guess at:

490xxx-(491xxx)-492xxx-(493xxx)-494xxx where xxx is the set number
The 491 and 493 vehicles are the additional vehicles in 5 car sets, and 492 is the pantograph vehicle so as an example WMR 730036 would be:
494036-492036-494036 (DM-PT-DM)

and LNR 730205* would be
490205-491205-492205-493205-494205 (DM-M-PT-M-DM)

*though I'm not sure if such a set would exist - tradition from the 350 fleet would suggest the 5 cars are 730101-730129 & 730230-730245 but with the 350/4s coming in, that system is broken anyway!

 

[colin58]

Only one of them, that being 494002

Appreciated thanks

Based on the video in post 393, and picture on flickr that shows the other driving vehicle of 730002 being 494002, I'd hazard a guess at:

490xxx-(491xxx)-492xxx-(493xxx)-494xxx where xxx is the set number
The 491 and 493 vehicles are the additional vehicles in 5 car sets, and 492 is the pantograph vehicle so as an example WMR 730036 would be:
494036-492036-494036 (DM-PT-DM)

and LNR 730205* would be
490205-491205-492205-493205-494205 (DM-M-PT-M-DM)

*though I'm not sure if such a set would exist - tradition from the 350 fleet would suggest the 5 cars are 730101-730129 & 730230-730245 but with the 350/4s coming in, that system is broken anyway!

Thanks for info

 

[RealTrains07]

I have just seen a video and they are getting Kiel seats

Correction, technically they already have Kiel seats)

on a different note, its also nice to see 730/0s have proper tables as well. (Not like those horrible tiny tables on the 701s) That is quite the step up compared to the 323s.

 

[RealTrains07]

Based on the video in post 393, and picture on flickr that shows the other driving vehicle of 730002 being 494002, I'd hazard a guess at:

490xxx-(491xxx)-492xxx-(493xxx)-494xxx where xxx is the set number
The 491 and 493 vehicles are the additional vehicles in 5 car sets, and 492 is the pantograph vehicle so as an example WMR 730036 would be:
494036-492036-494036 (DM-PT-DM)

and LNR 730205* would be
490205-491205-492205-493205-494205 (DM-M-PT-M-DM)

*though I'm not sure if such a set would exist - tradition from the 350 fleet would suggest the 5 cars are 730101-730129 & 730230-730245 but with the 350/4s coming in, that system is broken anyway!

TPE chose the numbering so I guess they were the ones who broke the system?

the numbering for the /2s would be interesting though if they carried that system. Is it confirmed what the numbering is for the 730/1s and /2s?

 

[OTRail]

Another reminder of why it's time to let the 319s go. So awful and outdated (appreciating it's not the same TOC here!)

Maybe so, but the ones for LNR are replacing 319s so still applicable in a way

 

[Spirit555]

730002 left Birmingham NS at 1643 today heading for Rugby.

Mark

 

[Peter Mugridge]

the numbering for the /2s would be interesting though if they carried that system. Is it confirmed what the numbering is for the 730/1s and /2s?

The 2021 Combined Volume has them as:

730 101 being 490101, 491101, 492101, 493101, 494101 etc

730 201 being 490201, 491201, 492201, 493201, 494201 etc

 

[Wolfie]

Just (1610ish) saw 730 002 in the "flesh" at Wolverhampton. Presumably testing as not in public service. I hadn't realised just how bloody awful the purple and orange WMR colour scheme really is.

 

[crosscity]

The first appearance of the new emu was made this afternoon on the Crosscity line. Here it is at Kings Norton.

Thu 11 Mar 2021 at 16:10. The new order. A brand new Bombardier 'Aventra' emu makes its first appearance at Kings Norton on the Crosscity line. Unit 730002 forms [5Q39] the 15:00 Lichfield TV-Bromsgrove proving run. by Ray, on Flickr

 

[Mordac]

Wish I'd known as that's my local station. Will keep an eye on RTT from now on.

 

[221101 Voyager]

Anyone who wants to see lots of shots of 730s can see the flickr group below.

First group for - UK Class 730 Aventra

Group for Class 730 Aventra EMU's for West Midlands Trains due in 2021.

www.flickr.com

Photos from todays move on the Southern WCML to Tring will no doubt appear throughout the day.

Also, if you have flickr and post photos of 730s on there, feel free to add them the linked flickr group above for us all to enjoy!

 

[Pete_uk]

They have big windows.

 

[the sniper]

Shouldn't the name of this thread be renamed to 'West Midland Trains Class 730s', given that's the name of the company and both brands within it are being discussed?

 

[221101 Voyager]

Shouldn't the name of this thread be renamed to 'West Midland Trains Class 730s', given that's the name of the company and both brands within it are being discussed?

True. There also isn't a dedicated one for the WMR fleet as far as I know, so even more reason to add the WMR brand to the thread title.

 

[Class172]

True. There also isn't a dedicated one for the WMR fleet as far as I know, so even more reason to add the WMR brand to the thread title.

Here’s one thread – https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/wmt-class-730-unveiled.203904/

 

[city dweller]

I have just seen a video and they are getting Kiel seats

Here's another video from Liverpool, gives quite a good view of seating etc.

 

[Chiltern006]

Anyone know when the next run on the South WCML is? Cheers

 

[221101 Voyager]

Anyone know when the next run on the South WCML is? Cheers

Tomorrow.

Realtime Trains - 518H 1237 Crewe C.S. (L&Nwr Site) to London Euston

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains - 527H 1847 London Euston to Crewe C.S. (L&Nwr Site)

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Also to discuss build progress and deliveries in addition to tracking each units location and acceptance into service please see my thread here.

Class 730 LNR & WMR Delivery/test Updates

Seen as there is not a proper thread for the 730s talking about deliveries, I thought I'd make one with the main purpose of tracking build progress and deliveries in addition to tracking each units location and acceptance into service. The other 730 threads had a lot of talk about formations...

www.railforums.co.uk

 

[OTRail]

*BRAND NEW* West Midlands Railway Class 730/0 on test at London Euston 14/03/21
Managed to catch 730002 at Euston this afternoon and made a brief video on it, feel free to check it out

 

[Chiltern006]

seems to be a good video explaining the ins and outs of the 730s. recommend giving it a watch

 

[Grumpy Git]

seems to be a good video explaining the ins and outs of the 730s. recommend giving it a watch

So Northern get the cast-offs again (as with the 319's)!

That paint scheme can best described as a flying aubergine with a hint of carrot.

 

[RealTrains07]

So Northern get the cast-offs again (as with the 319's)!

That paint scheme can best described as a flying aubergine with a hint of carrot.

(I wouldnt call them cast offs considering they are only 27 and will help northern further standardise their EMUs)

Its definitely the most accurate video on the 730s fleet information I have seen. Great video!

Although I am not sure they will be in service before late 2021 at this rate especially the LNR sets

 

[superalbs]

seems to be a good video explaining the ins and outs of the 730s. recommend giving it a watch

You could also have just been honest, and admitted the video was yours.

 

[Chiltern006]

You could also have just been honest, and admitted the video was yours.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

seems to be a good video explaining the ins and outs of the 730s. recommend giving it a watch

Not-so-subtle self promo there... classy
Joking aside I wonder if we’ll ever see LNR and WMR 730s coupled? Obviously not planned but perhaps on the routes 350s currently operate now for WMR.

 

[Class172]

Not-so-subtle self promo there... classy
Joking aside I wonder if we’ll ever see LNR and WMR 730s coupled? Obviously not planned but perhaps on the routes 350s currently operate now for WMR.

I imagine only for the purposes of rescue only. The 730/0s have a completely different interior and will be diagrammed for different services to the 730/1s and 730/2s. The trains from the two different business units of WMR and LNWR will be based at different depots as far as I know: Soho (and/or Bescot, I'm not sure on that one?) and Kings Heath respectively.